Trains cancellations - latest

[Lowlander]

Hallelujah!

Love the new London Bridge station concourse - was out of the station within minutes this morning (no more queuing from the back of the train).

[BrandNewGuy]

Yep. The St Thomas St exits are a timesaver for me too. Concourse looks good, but the WHSmith looks like it's going to be pathetically small. We've had to put up with a poxy WHS at LB for years now and I was hoping for a proper big one in such a busy location. I have to pop down to the big WHS in E&C shopping centre at lunchtime to get my magazine fix...

[JW]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> Looks like we're getting our trains back:

> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37225831

>

> "Southern rail is to reinstate more than a third

> of the 341 daily services it axed earlier in the

> summer to provide a more reliable timetable.

> The 119 trains, nearly all in London, will run

> from 5 September.

> The operator introduced a reduced service in July

> after months of delays and cancellations, which it

> blamed on "unprecedented" staff sickness.

> Southern is in a long-running dispute with its

> guards and the latest 48-hour strike begins on 7

> September.

> The reinstated trains include:

> All of its "metro" services in south London

> Sutton to Streatham via Wimbledon

> Twenty-six services on the West London line

> between Clapham and Watford Junction/Milton

> Keynes

> Guildford to Leatherhead"

This has made my day!

[Goose]

Indeed great news. And the new concourse is great. Next question: When do we get the full service back and some services stop terminating at South Bermondsey ? Is it now the station is half open or 2018 when it fully opens ?

[srisky]

Great news but I can't find the new timetable online - anyone know if the 8.51 is running from next week?

Thanks

[Jeremy]

When do we get the 6 train per hour service reinstated, rather than the 4 train per hour service, which was supposed to be an interim measure during the London Bridge works...

[BrandNewGuy]

srisky Wrote:

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> Great news but I can't find the new timetable

> online - anyone know if the 8.51 is running from

> next week?

> Thanks

www.nationarail.co.uk has all the services restored from when they were cut back this summer, so yes the 08.51 is there. But double check at the end of the week, as the revised timetable has only been put online on a week-by-week basis.

And I assume we'll be getting our 'old' six trains an hour service resuming when the station and lines are fully open in 2018.

[Jeremy]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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> And I assume we'll be getting our 'old' six trains

> an hour service resuming when the station and

> lines are fully open in 2018.

Thanks BNG... was more of a rhetorical question but I appreciate your response anyway. The cynics amongst us are not optimistic about the full service ever being reinstated.

[BrandNewGuy]

I'm not optimistic either, but I can live with the four-an-hour service. Southern Trains frog-boiling their customers...

[srisky]

BrandNewGuy Wrote:

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>

> www.nationarail.co.uk has all the services

> restored from when they were cut back this summer,

> so yes the 08.51 is there. But double check at the

> end of the week, as the revised timetable has only

> been put online on a week-by-week basis.

>

> And I assume we'll be getting our 'old' six trains

> an hour service resuming when the station and

> lines are fully open in 2018.

Thanks v.much - with the yellow warning triangle still on the timetable I dare not get my hopes up.

[Zebedee Tring]

Southern Railway: ?20m fund unveiled to "improve" services.

Wonder how much difference this will make. As the RMT General Secretary says "If there's money to prop up this private outfit why isn't there cash available to make sure that the guards and safety are protected on their trains?"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37245163

[Jeremy]

Zebedee Tring Wrote:

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> "If there's money to

> prop up this private outfit why isn't there cash

> available to make sure that the guards and safety

> are protected on their trains?"

Because maybe modernisation is a more worthwhile long term aim than caving into union demands?

[Zebedee Tring]

If it's up to Southern Trains to maintain the trains more effectively, then shouldn't they do so without more Government money instead of shelling out the money that they save by not carrying out adequate maintenance to their shareholders and senior executives?

If it's NOT up to them to do this, then there's something badly wrong with the current form of rail privatisation.

I suppose that we are lucky that Chris Grayling is the MP for Epsom and is thus constantly confronted with the Southern Trains chaos as a constituency MP.

[MarkE]

Four carriages again on the 08:30 this morning. Plenty of passengers stranded. Another ?2 Oyster charge for tapping in and out at the same station, before nipping on a bus (another ?1.60), train to Victoria and tube. Just as well there's a PAYG price cap.

If the 08:10 service turns up, full length, on Monday, I will applaud it into the station, cheering wildly.

[KidKruger]

I heard about the 0830 this morning.

What a complete joke.

They could at least warn passengers via the station tannoy - they will know by the night before where all their carriages are and what services they can satisfy. Twats.

[Zebedee Tring]

Southern rail co-owner Go-Ahead's profits up by nearly 27% - which illustrates perfectly the point that I made in my post yesterday namely:

"If it's up to Southern Trains to maintain the trains more effectively, then shouldn't they do so without more Government money instead of shelling out the money that they save by not carrying out adequate maintenance to their shareholders and senior executives?"

[Lowlander]

MarkE Wrote:

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> Four carriages again on the 08:30 this morning.

> Plenty of passengers stranded. Another ?2 Oyster

> charge for tapping in and out at the same station,

> before nipping on a bus (another ?1.60), train to

> Victoria and tube. Just as well there's a PAYG

> price cap.

>

> If the 08:10 service turns up, full length, on

> Monday, I will applaud it into the station,

> cheering wildly.

You can easily reclaim the ?2 online or by 'phoning TfL no matter what type of ticket you use.

Yesterday I received a pile of letters containing vouchers. Not much (?30) considering I'd spent a similar amount on bus fares but it's important to do so and make a small point.

[MarkE]

It was all too good to be true. The 8:10 arrived and departed EDW on time.

It made it to South Bermondsey, whereupon it is currently stuck as the driver is "unable to release the brakes".

If you're on a service behind us... sorry!

[ED_moots]

I was on that service this morning. Just about resisted the urges to firstly cheer when the train arrived then laugh out loud at the brakes issue at South Bermondsey.

Enjoyed a stroll through the new concourse to jubilee line. A fair distance but about as direct as it can be from plat 15 and under cover.

Feeling (hoping & praying) we've turned a corner but still feel EDers are owed some freebies having suffered for years.

The strike in Wednesday and Thursday is still on although southern claim our revived service will be unaffected. Optimistic to the last.

[BrandNewGuy]

Four carriages only on the 08.30. Useless.

[Cedges]

8.57 was cancelled and by the time the 8.51 had been delayed until 9.04 I left to get the bus (and got to work late for a change). God known when/if it ever actually showed up.

My poor brand new housemate got there in time to not be able to get on the 8.30 and then had to get the bus with me after standing in the rain for over half an hour. What a welcome to the area.

[Lowlander]

I just donated part of my refunds to a crowdfunding legal attempt against Southern:

https://www.crowdjustice.co.uk/case/southernrail/

[singalto]

I always used to travel from DH to H&I without changing trains so was very annoyed at the change a few months ago.

[KidKruger]

"Four carriages only on the 08.30. Useless."

Anybody know what telno. to call and ask about this pls ?

I want to try and figure how no. of carriages can be established before train gets here - to save pointless waiting for a train you can't get on. !

[Monkey]

i can't see what's in it for us regarding the works at LB. we've lost train services which will never get reinstated, put up with years of commuting misery and this morning, I'm sat on a train which is leaving countless trains go past at high speed, the congestion hadn't eased.