NUT Stike Action - Please Support Our Schools

[rendelharris]

uncleglen Wrote:

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> You can't combine the NASUWT and the NUT- teachers

> specifically avoid the NUT because they are so

> militant and so join the other unions (ATL, Voice

> (formerly P.A.T- 20,000 members and a no-strike

> policy) because ALL teachers need Union support

> for one reason or another.

It's funny how a union is called militant for defending the rights of teachers and children, but nobody calls a government militant for slashing education budgets, dicking around with the curriculum on ideological grounds and rejigging the educational landscape so their pals can start taking massive profits from it (Lord Peckham et al). Worth noting the NUT didn't strike between 1987 and 2008 and that teacher strikes are still very rare, but of course the second teachers do strike, after protracted attempts to engage the government in dialogue and being met with nothing but stonewalling, they're instantly accused of being loony left militants.

[Lordship 516]

You cannot combine both trade unions just to get a result that suits your argument

22.47% voted to go on strike

75.51% exercised their freedom not to vote

Total electorate Dulwich & West Norwood 113,754

Voter Turnout 51,362

Helen Hayes 27,772

% of electorate that voted for her 24.41%

Much the same for most MPs but no one claims they are not legitimately elected

Abstension = acceptance of result

[rendelharris]

Lordship 516 Wrote:

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> You cannot combine both trade unions just to get a

> result that suits your argument

> 22.47% voted to go on strike

> 75.51% exercised their freedom not to vote

>

> Total electorate Dulwich & West Norwood 113,754

> Voter Turnout 51,362

> Helen Hayes 27,772

> % of electorate that voted for her 24.41%

> Much the same for most MPs but no one claims they

> are not legitimately elected

>

> Abstension = acceptance of result

I'll file that under "points I wish I'd thought of making" - nice one.

[WorkingMummy]

It is important to understand what the strike (which yes, was called for by over 90% of those who voted) is for.

It is a last ditch protest against the Education Bill, directed at a government which ISN'T LISTENING.

A good place to start to read about the Bill is here: https://www.teachers.org.uk/campaigns/white-paper

Enough is enough!

I have three children in state education and my family is affected by this strike. But i question who in their right mind would be standing with this Tory government against the people who actually devote their working week to teaching and caring for our young children.

Support our teachers. Save your anger for the government.

[Otta]

I'm with Rendel on this one. I never quite understand the special level of ire reserved for teachers striking compared to other professions (even doctors).

I think a large part of it is just that people have a sense of entitlement and school is free childcare which has no business being disrupted.

A strike that causes no disruption is not worth doing. The point is to cause disruption because that is the only way to be heard.

[????]

Let's do a maths test..... 25% x 90%

[Otta]

But what percentage agreed to strike once the strike was called? Judging by the number of schools closed today I'd guess it was pretty high.

[????]

different issue - crossing picket lines; too much hassle; wrath of colleagues (interesting piece in the Spectator recently about what it's like to be an out Tory teacher recently, answer frightening and damaging to your career prospects).

[rendelharris]

???? Wrote:

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> different issue - crossing picket lines; too much

> hassle; wrath of colleagues (interesting piece in

> the Spectator recently about what it's like to be

> an out Tory teacher recently, answer frightening

> and damaging to your career prospects).

You are absolutely right on that - teachers may well feel intimidated into not crossing a picket line even if they didn't support the strike. But if they felt like that, why didn't they vote down the strike in the secret ballot they were offered? As Lordship 516 pointed out, abstention=acceptance of result. Unless universal participation in ballots is made law then the results can only be taken from those who bothered to vote.

[uncleglen]

If a strike is called then the whole membership are supposed to come out.

85,000 out of 377,000 voted to strike =22.5%

[WorkingMummy]

So ironic that you are making this point about a one day strike by one profession, when you argue for divorce from the EU - a seismic upheaval for millions of us - on the basis of a 38% popular (and misguided) mandate.

[Otta]

Haha, touch?.