Jump to content

Recommended Posts

expat Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> >EU nationals can cross all borders using any form

> of official photo ID, e.g. drving licence or

> national ID.

> >They don't need a passport.

>

> Only if the country is a member of Schengen and

> the UK is not:

> All EU countries are full Schengen members except

> for Bulgaria, Cyprus, Ireland, omania and the

> United Kingdom. You will therefore need to present

> a valid passport or ID card to travel to those

> five countries



It has nothing to do with Schengen. Schengen is a visa area for non-EEA Nationals. The Free Movement Directive governs the movement of EEA Nationals and the bit that gives you the right to cross all EEA borders with an ID card is:


Article 5

Right of entry

1. Without prejudice to the provisions on travel documents

applicable to national border controls, Member States shall

grant Union citizens leave to enter their territory with a valid

identity card or passport and shall grant family members who

are not nationals of a Member State leave to enter their territory

with a valid passport.


Click this for access to the full directive

Loz Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> The rules used to be that provided UKBA agreed,

> the airline would fly you back and the Borders

> staff would check your identity on arrival. Some

> - in fact most - consulates could issue an

> emergency passport (which was an A4 sheet of

> paper) if needed. Some countries didn't accept

> this document for transit people, so they are

> changing.

>

> They are rolling out a new system that will issue

> an emergency travel document (like an 8 page mini

> passport) that is valid to complete your trip and

> get you home. The ability to fly back without any

> documentation will be removed. All embassies and

> consulates will have the ability to issue this

> document.

>

>

> EU nationals can cross all borders using any form

> of official photo ID, e.g. drving licence or

> national ID. They don't need a passport.

>

> That's not true. You need a valid passport or

> national ID Card. A driving licence won't be

> accepted.



I've had my full driving licence accepted for travel to and from Paris when my passport had expired, but I think you are right in that this would at the discretion of the immigration officer rather than a right which travel with and ID card is.

ImpetuousVrouw Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

>

> I've had my full driving licence accepted for

> travel to and from Paris when my passport had

> expired, but I think you are right in that this

> would at the discretion of the immigration officer

> rather than a right which travel with and ID card

> is.


That must have been a while ago. I doubt you'd get away with it these days - an airline especially would refuse to fly you.

Loz Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> The rules used to be that provided UKBA agreed,

> the airline would fly you back and the Borders

> staff would check your identity on arrival. Some

> - in fact most - consulates could issue an

> emergency passport (which was an A4 sheet of

> paper) if needed. Some countries didn't accept

> this document for transit people, so they are

> changing.

>

> They are rolling out a new system that will issue

> an emergency travel document (like an 8 page mini

> passport) that is valid to complete your trip and

> get you home. The ability to fly back without any

> documentation will be removed. All embassies and

> consulates will have the ability to issue this

> document.

>

>

> EU nationals can cross all borders using any form

> of official photo ID, e.g. drving licence or

> national ID. They don't need a passport.

>

> That's not true. You need a valid passport or

> national ID Card. A driving licence won't be

> accepted.


I've been told by airline check-in staff and border security people that they will even accept an employee photo ID card. In other words anything with your name and your photo that is vaguely official looking. In order to get people back home. "Have you got *anything* with your photo on it?" they say. But this is applied inconsistently and cannot be relied on.


The best option is often a visit to the consulate and the issue of an emergency travel document (something I went through as a student and wish never to repeat). Plus photocopies of everything kept separately.

Louisiana,


As I said, the Emergency Travel Document system has just been overhauled - once it is all rolled out then you normally will be able to get one within an hour, provided you have the documentation in order. Oh, and 90 quid.


It is all new. There used to be an 'emergency passport' (a one page a4 sheet valid for a single journey) and an temporary passport (only issued by a small number of embassies/consulates and valid for a year). Both are being phased out in favour of the new ETD introduced last year. All the other informal arrangements are going as well.

Loz Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> ImpetuousVrouw Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> >

> > I've had my full driving licence accepted for

> > travel to and from Paris when my passport had

> > expired, but I think you are right in that this

> > would at the discretion of the immigration

> officer

> > rather than a right which travel with and ID

> card

> > is.

>

> That must have been a while ago. I doubt you'd

> get away with it these days - an airline

> especially would refuse to fly you.



It was on the Eurostar about 18 months ago.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • Maybe if you indicated what you were reviewing, pub, gastro pub, high-end gourmet, local Italian etc. - whatever classifications you wanted, then you need only indicate that your stars referred to overall quality in that category. So it it's pub grub then 5 stars means it's great pub grub, but not the same experience as 5 stars in a high end gourmet category. Your star system could then include implicitly value for money as well. 
    • Does OP know they can sell everything but alcohol even without a license?😄
    • Thanks, it's a real dilemma whether to do star ratings. A few people have asked me to do them but I've tried to resist as they are too reductive - people will look at them and won't read review! and they are difficult too - my last review of Victoria Inn, i'd give it five stars for value for money - how can you knock two courses for £18? – but 2 stars for quality - edible but nothing special. Which I guess is why some sites give star ratings for different things...
    • ok - Jeremy himself is against mandatory vaccines. Is he as extreme as his brother? No? Is it fair to discuss how the overall view of that family would inform Jeremy's response to the pandemic? I would argue very much so    
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...