Parent & Baby parking at Sainsburys

[cate]

peckhamboy Wrote:

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> cate Wrote:

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> > I don't think those tickets are legally

> > enforceable.

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> Good contribution cate, thanks for that. Oh, and

> you're wrong incidentally. See those massive signs

> up saying that if you park there when you're not

> entitled to you get a fine? That forms a contract

> that you accept when you use the car park. Whether

> sainsburys would ever try to enforce is another

> question though.

Why am I wrong? I don't think they can enforce it. It's a scare tactic which might work.

[ClareC]

Peckhamboy already explained why you were wrong.... the issue isn't whether Sainsbury's can enforce but if they actually would bother.

[Fuschia]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/5887878/Sainsburys-introduces-parking-wardens-to-protect-family-bays.html

[cate]

ClareC Wrote:

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> Peckhamboy already explained why you were

> wrong.... the issue isn't whether Sainsbury's can

> enforce but if they actually would bother.

I am not wrong to say that I don't think the tickets are legally enforceable. That is the issue. Anyone out there who has got a ticket and who has paid it? Having people patrolling is one thing but collecting money is something else entirely. If they made all the spaces the same size then this problem wouldn't exist. What should people who might be disabled, say with a broken leg, ankle etc. and who doesn't have a blue badge do?

[The Nappy Lady]

Trolling guys don't rise to it....

[pk]

ClareC Wrote:

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> Peckhamboy already explained why you were

> wrong.... the issue isn't whether Sainsbury's can

> enforce but if they actually would bother.

but there may also an issue over whether they can in practice enforce if they don't know who their agreement is with - any contract would be formed with the driver (not the registered keeper) so unless they know who the driver is they can't enforce it

this is why if you get a letter asking for money in relation to e.g. overstaying at morrison's in peckham if you ignore it it goes away

[Fuschia]

Well, I think we can agree that for our purposes, it is better for Sainsburys to issue tickets (enforceable or not)

[peckhamboy]

cate - you said the tickets were not legally enforceable. That's wrong because there is a valid contract, and a valid contract is by definition legally enforceable. In practice, it may be difficult or undesirable to seek to enforce but that doesn't mean that it can't be enforced.