Is the past sometimes best left in the past?

[jaywalker]

Seabag, would being single mean that the pull of guilt "of all that we have done and been" is less?

You don't have any cultural references for 'phantasm' in this context, right?

[Lordship 516]

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> > > Haven't we all made mistakes?

> > > I don't mean murder, but as we get older and

> > > worldlier don't we all realise we treated

> > people

> > > badly/misinterpreted others actions?

> > > I would not make the mistakes again-but I am

> > > guilty - the list is long...

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> > The sentiment is admirable. But who have you

> > installed in the tribunal of your own reason to

> > find yourself guilty? Did you think that this

> > phantasm was of your own devising?

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> You're single, right?

Why the snide attack on the person..?

[rendelharris]

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> > > > Haven't we all made mistakes?

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> > > > worldlier don't we all realise we treated

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> > > > badly/misinterpreted others actions?

> > > > I would not make the mistakes again-but I

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> > > The sentiment is admirable. But who have you

> > > installed in the tribunal of your own reason

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> > > find yourself guilty? Did you think that this

> > > phantasm was of your own devising?

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> > You're single, right?

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> Why the snide attack on the person..?

I don't wish, and I'm sure s/he wouldn't wish me to, speak for Seabag, but I took it that s/he was making a rather amusing joke that if you've got a partner you've got someone to make you feel guilty, no need to devise your own guilt - pretty sure s/he wasn't making a personal attack.

[Lordship 516]

I got the notion of it being a joke but it was a pointed barb ...lacked any humour for me....

[rendelharris]

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> I got the notion of it being a joke but it was a

> pointed barb ...lacked any humour for me....

Sorry, can't see it - just a joke about the nature of being in a couple as far as I was concerned.

[maxxi]

I can see it (the joke I mean not the thing about it not being a joke) and thought it was funny - and believe "who have you installed in the tribunal of your own reason" is the basis for a perfect dinner party game slash R4 panel show.

[Seabag]

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> > I got the notion of it being a joke but it was

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> Sorry, can't see it - just a joke about the nature

> of being in a couple as far as I was concerned.

Well done RH, maximum points to you.

0 points to Lordship.

[Seabag]

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> I can see it (the joke I mean not the thing about

> it not being a joke) and thought it was funny -

> and believe "who have you installed in the

> tribunal of your own reason" is the basis for a

> perfect dinner party game slash R4 panel show.

Hosted by Nicholas Parsons ?

[Lordship 516]

@Seabag

...always happy to receive 0 points from you.

[jaywalker]

I thought Otta's OP was quite a serious one.

How does one approach it?

Presumably, we all bring to bear what resources we can.

No doubt I should try harder to make my points clearer. You have said before that the kind of language I used above is pretentious and vacuous (and this is certainly always a danger). But, for me, the OP raises a question that is both important and very difficult to get at. You can say my points make no sense, but I'm not sure that this is true (mainly because I have no new ideas and have to plunder them from elsewhere even if I do try to put them in my own words).

I use ordinary and direct language when I'm posting about car parking, pheasants or pavements: not sure that will get us very far with the OP.

But you are probably right, the tribunal of the EDF forum is a good place to come face to face with one's own pretentiousness: and at this time of year gardening suddenly looks more interesting.

[Seabag]

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😁😁

[Otta]

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Well it was SUPPOSED to be. But whatever works I guess.

[Seabag]

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You say 'happy' but do I detect a little bit of 'prickly' Mr 516?

Ok I'll give you a +1, is that better ?

[jaywalker]

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> I can see it (the joke I mean not the thing about

> it not being a joke) and thought it was funny -

> and believe "who have you installed in the

> tribunal of your own reason" is the basis for a

> perfect dinner party game slash R4 panel show.

glad you have such a great sense of humour maxxi.

why is the quotation the basis for a perfect dinner party game?

do we judge ourselves autonomously? my point was that we do not.

the phrase 'tribunal of reason' is, I admit, derivative: but I guess you just think its a joke.

[Lordship 516]

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> You say 'happy' but do I detect a little bit of

> 'prickly' Mr 516?

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> Ok I'll give you a +1, is that better ?

...nope...when I say I'm happy, then I mean happy..