Dog Fouling - Please fill in Southwark's Consultation Document

[nununoolio]

And who stopped the dog training? Was it the Council? News to me if it was.

[first mate]

nununoolio Wrote:

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> Although I do have to ask First Mate this. In what

> way is pointing out the council can't afford to

> take on several court cases 'scaremongering'. They

> would be criticised for wasting public money.

If there is a such a problem in the borough with so many wanting action then I doubt the council would be criticised for taking perpetrators to court and winning. Councils regularly have bulk days at Magistrates Court for non payment of council tax. I believe the costs for the application etc.. for summary charges do not exceed ?100 per individual. Why would this be different?

You did not say whether you think the council would have to contract PSPO enforcement out to a private enforcement company? This is what has happened elsewhere.

[first mate]

nununoolio Wrote:

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> And who stopped the dog training? Was it the

> Council? News to me if it was.

I believe so, yes.

[nununoolio]

Probably 9-10 years ago, I vaguely remember a lady training dogs (and owners?)on that triangle of grass near Barry Rd. We were all for it and I took some of her cards to pass to dog walkers I thought might need her services. No idea why she stopped, but it certainly wasn't to do with the council.

[nununoolio]

> You did not say whether you think the council

> would have to contract PSPO enforcement out to a

> private enforcement company? This is what has

> happened elsewhere.

Not heard that this is in the pipeline or even being considered. I will begin to feel distinctly nervous if I do hear anything!

[first mate]

nununoolio Wrote:

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> Probably 9-10 years ago, I vaguely remember a lady

> training dogs (and owners?)on that triangle of

> grass near Barry Rd. We were all for it and I took

> some of her cards to pass to dog walkers I thought

> might need her services. No idea why she stopped,

> but it certainly wasn't to do with the council.

I understand it was the Council.

[first mate]

nununoolio Wrote:

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> > You did not say whether you think the council

> > would have to contract PSPO enforcement out to

> a

> > private enforcement company? This is what has

> > happened elsewhere.

>

> Not heard that this is in the pipeline or even

> being considered. I will begin to feel distinctly

> nervous if I do hear anything!

And with good reason Nunoolio. Hiring of private companies to enforce PSPOs is happening a lot elsewhere. The reason is that council do not have enough officers on the ground to enforce. Watch the Panorama (called Inside the Litter Police and using secret filming) earlier in the week.

[d walker]

first mate Wrote:

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> nununoolio Wrote:

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> > Probably 9-10 years ago, I vaguely remember a

> lady

> > training dogs (and owners?)on that triangle of

> > grass near Barry Rd. We were all for it and I

> took

> > some of her cards to pass to dog walkers I

> thought

> > might need her services. No idea why she

> stopped,

> > but it certainly wasn't to do with the council.

Good if Southwark council are all for allowing dog training to take place in the parks (as mentioned here by park warden), then could this be taken forward? The Kennel Club do a "good citizen " scheme which gives dog owners understanding of their responsibilities of dog ownership and basic training in dog handling. I do think the majority of dog owners are either responsible or want to be responsible, perhaps people new to dog ownership would really appreciate this?

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> I understand it was the Council.

[Mugglesworth]

For those who believe that legislation will cure all ills, have you considered that dog walkers often walk around in twos or threes for companionship? This would result in more than four dogs in one place at one time, even with a limit to dogs walked per person in legislation. Is your answer to this to legislate against dog walkers being in the vicinity of other dog walkers? Gets to look a bit draconian, doesn't it?

[Rosetta]

If you are walking around with other dog walkers, and chatting, then you are not paying attention to the dogs in your charge when they are off the leash. Seen it many times, and in Peckham Rye too.

[karen s]

As basically the problem of Dogs fouling the pavements and parks has already been up before Southwark council before and nothing has been done about it as yet!!!

I think people should name and shame. Someone must know or see which owners are responsible for which dogs.

I have two dogs myself and would never ever leave poop behind if they done it of course.

No excuse Dog poop sacks are free for Southwark residents available at Southwark Libraries.

[first mate]

http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/press-releases/2016/october/waging-a-war-on-dogs/

[gabys1st]

Taking opportunity to gain info about S. residents?