Lightbulbs

[Tarot]

I dont like the low energy light bulbs, they are just dont give out enough light.the trouble now is,where can you

buy light bulbs.

Some of those bulbs dont even fit in to lamps and someone told me if you broke one it would be dangerous as it has

a kind of cynide in it.

So what is the truth of that, and the long term outlook of this situation,is it compulsory.

Will goverment buildings and premises etc be working in half light,or will the privalleged be using ordanary bulbs

while the great unworhty have to turn trogladites and use thes glass candles.

[katie1997]

You must have missed *Bob*'s exciting light bulb news...

[Pearson]

Could you shed some light on that pls Katie1997

[katie1997]

Well, Pearson, normally I'd attach a link to the thread but I'm feeling a bit dim (arf arf) ...

[Pearson]

I don't need a link, just show me the light.

Tarot's no use, if he/she were bright they would have just googled it!

[katie1997]

If I were Tarot, I'd be incandescent at the way this is going....

[Pearson]

This is a shining example of how not to set the forum

ablaze with responses to such a crap thread!

[katie1997]

Watt exactly are you trying to say?

[Tarot]

You have made be blow a fuse now. You bright sparks.I must be in the shade missing Bobs thread and google too.

I,ll have to wire myself in to the current informationB)

[Huguenot]

Tarot, you can find low energy light bulbs in the same range of brightness as high energy light bulbs.

You need to look for the 'equivalent' wattage on the wrapping. For example, a low energy 25 watt bulb may give out the equivalent light of an old skoole 60 watt bulb. If you want 100 watt you can find them. Or 200 watt or whatever.

Old skoole (tungsten) lights don't even give out a full range of colours. They're actually yellow. They compete with TV LED lights, which are blue.

If you don't believe me, walk down the street after dusk. The yellow and blue lights of the competing light sources are very clear in people's windows.

I think the real problem is that low energy lights are just different.

There's nothing that can be done rationally to address this, you just need a few deep breaths and to relax.

[Jeremy]

The main problem is that they take a few minutes to get warmed up. But once they have, they give off plenty of light. As Huguenot says, you have to check the "equivalent wattage".

Given the reduced energy consumption and the (much) longer life, I'm happy to use energy saving bulbs.

[wee quinnie]

I was under the impression that it was illegal to sell non eco friendly lightbulbs these days, however, I was in Dulwich DIY yesterday and asked for 2 x 60 watt lightbulbs, expecting that they would give me the energy equivalent version. When I got home, I did indedd discover, that they had given me EXACTLY what i had asked for....

[nashoi]

Not cheap, but particularly anywhere you do a lot of reading try www.ecozone.com/p_BioBulb.html which I think you can buy in the eco shop on lordship lane.

[Ridgley]

Have now you seen the light to all this thread Tarot:))

[Tarot]

I am enlightened Ridgely ,Alleluyah. Thanks oh wise ones.(tu)

[Annette Curtain]

Me. Where's the candle ?

Tarot. Yes it does, doesn't it

[Twirly]

wee quinnie Wrote:

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> I was under the impression that it was illegal to

> sell non eco friendly lightbulbs these days,

> however, I was in Dulwich DIY yesterday and asked

> for 2 x 60 watt lightbulbs, expecting that they

> would give me the energy equivalent version. When

> I got home, I did indedd discover, that they had

> given me EXACTLY what i had asked for....

I think, although I'm not 100% certain, it's the case that they don't manufacture them anymore, but they can sell existing stocks until they run out. When they do, all you can get is the eco-friendly ones.

As for them lighting up quickly or not, they seem to vary enormously. The newer ones I've got take only a second or two to get to full brightness, but I've got one of the freebies sent out by one of the energy companies a couple of years back. I hate it - it takes about 5 minutes to get to full brightness, so I have a habit of switching the light on, then putting other lights in the room on whilst it warms up. Often by then I've finished in there, so they all go off, or I might leave it on for a bit if I think I'll be popping in and out. Trouble with that is that I then forget about it and it gets left on when it shouldn't be. Hardly environmentally friendly. I really must get around to changing it.

[DulwichFox]

Tesco still sells non-eco Candle Bulbs but they are the Clear ones not Pearl

With the clear bulb you get a harsh light.

[Tarot]

(Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> Me. Where's the candle ?

>

> Tarot. Yes it does, doesn't it

(?)

[Tarot]

They are harsh Dulwich fox. looking at the element of a bare bulb can trigger migraine for that reason I would never use them.

[minkturtle]

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[Loz]

Only 100w and over are illegal. And who the hell needs a 100w bulb anyway?

[ianr]

There seems, on paper, to be a phasing-out schedule. A fair bit of the wasted energy does presumably go toward room heating. The fault really, given that heat rises, is placing them up on the ceiling.

I gather that a whole new generation of LED bulbs, of allsorts hues, is a real possibility within a few years.

[Tarot]

Exactly Minkturtle. they should lead by example,it seems stupid to have dim lights while half of Londons is lit up

all night.

The high glow of the south bank of a night can be seen from where I live.

It probably wouldnt benifit our bills either.

Have they altered the emissions of gas on the fridges yet.

I bought a washing machine that washes at low temratures,I have seen no change in the electric bill, and now on the adverts they are saying,you cannot kill germs at low tempratures.

I think they all have ulterior motives. something to do with their phony reports of whose been the best country for saving the planet.Yeah loks like they(goverments) are making a right B++++++s of it.and expect us to vote for them

portraying they are earth Angels. Time for tea I think.