Pellatt Rd Parking

[Jacqui5254]

jimlad48 Wrote:

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> To be honest there is little tangible difference

> from all day to 2hr. A lot of people were worried,

> but we have found that the big parking pressure

> was from commuters parking all day, not people

> nipping in and out.

>

> You will see a huge drop in traffic as commutters

> stop parking, and it will get better - you have

> nothing to worry about, and actually its easier if

> you have tradesmen or visitors as outside those 2

> hours, you don't need to get a permit for them.

This "you have nothing to worry about.." seems naive to me.

Once the scheme is imposed on everyone it won't be that simple...the pressure won't be from commuters not being able to park in the limited number of spaces, it will be from residents and visitors who won't be able to park.

It's not just about your own road, it's about our neighbourhood and all the people who live in it, work in it and visit it!!!

[jimlad48]

If you are a resident, buy a permit. A visitor or tradesman can have temporary permits too. No one who has a reason to visit will be unable to park. There is nothing to be afraid of.

Our parking use is down about 70% across our CPZ, and other CLZ are similar. There is no competition for spaces as you can only park in one CPZ, not the whole area. People keep saying that parking will dissapear - the exact opposite is the case, parking has massively increased due to the enormous decline in people able to park here.

[Charles Notice]

"To be honest there is little tangible difference

> from all day to 2hr. A lot of people were worried,

> but we have found that the big parking pressure

> was from commuters parking all day, not people

> nipping in and out."

You still have not explained why you took all day no parking and not just 2 hours.

Seems like a case of "I'm alright jack"

[jimlad48]

Charles Notice Wrote:

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> "To be honest there is little tangible difference

>

> > from all day to 2hr. A lot of people were

> worried,

> > but we have found that the big parking pressure

>

> > was from commuters parking all day, not people

> > nipping in and out."

>

> You still have not explained why you took all day

> no parking and not just 2 hours.

>

> Seems like a case of "I'm alright jack"

People had a vote, they were offered two options by the council and all day parking narrowly pipped it.

I dont know specifics of why dkh zone is different. I voted all day because i was sick of what commuters were doing to my street. I cant speak for other people. Suggesting its 'i am alright jack' for voting in a ballot is actually pretty offensive.

[sally buying]

"People had a vote, they were offered two options by the council and all day parking narrowly pipped it."

We voted by a majority of 64% for all day parking for the same reason as you did and we were told we could not have it.

We were offered no options. Why do the Council then say we always listen to the majority vote in all their consultations and then refuse what people want.

Why?

[Earl Aelfheah]

jimlad48 Wrote:

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> If you are a resident, buy a permit. A visitor or

> tradesman can have temporary permits too. No one

> who has a reason to visit will be unable to park.

> There is nothing to be afraid of.

>

> Our parking use is down about 70% across our CPZ,

> and other CLZ are similar. There is no competition

> for spaces as you can only park in one CPZ, not

> the whole area. People keep saying that parking

> will dissapear - the exact opposite is the case,

> parking has massively increased due to the

> enormous decline in people able to park here.

And where do you think those cars have gone exactly?

[Cardelia]

jimlad48 Wrote:

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> To be honest there is little tangible difference

> from all day to 2hr. A lot of people were worried,

> but we have found that the big parking pressure

> was from commuters parking all day, not people

> nipping in and out.

>

> You will see a huge drop in traffic as commutters

> stop parking, and it will get better - you have

> nothing to worry about, and actually its easier if

> you have tradesmen or visitors as outside those 2

> hours, you don't need to get a permit for them.

I used to live in Southampton which is full of CPZs. Most were fine precisely because they were large and had the same hours of operation as neighbouring CPZs, but one or two were particularly badly managed which included the one I used to reside in. It covered one single street (about 50 metres long) and the hours were more lax than the surrounding CPZs. The parking pressures were partially from commuters but also partially from schools and local churches, and the hours in which our CPZ operated were seemingly designed to stop commuters but still allow parking for these institutions. On certain days, notably weekends, we had to time our trips out to make sure we would not return at a time when all our road was full of churchgoers parking for free yet we couldn't park in a neighbouring CPZ because they were still operational. It was stressful, frustrating and incredibly time-consuming to arrange our lives around our parking availability which is the complete opposite of what the CPZ is supposed to do.

I know that not all CPZs are the same and ours was particularly badly managed. But they are not the answer to every parking problem. What worked for you may not work for everyone else, especially when it comes to the difference between all day restrictions vs. 2 hour restrictions. Imagine living in a zone with 2 hour restrictions and you're surrounded by all day restrictions - what do you think your parking availability will be like compared to the surrounding zones? So don't tell people it will be wonderful and they'll have nothing to worry about because you just don't know that.

[jimlad48]

I have no insight to the Southwark decision making process. I appreciate 2hrs is frustrating but it is better than what exists now.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Why is parking close to a train station, a school or a hospital unacceptable exactly? Where is it OK to drive to?

[sally buying]

jimlad48 Wrote:

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> I have no insight to the Southwark decision making

> process. I appreciate 2hrs is frustrating but it

> is better than what exists now.

What exist now for our street was because of the recent all day CPZ's that have come into effect.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Kwayz Wrote:

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> Hi,

>

> Hows everyone doing? Hope everyone's ok.

>

> I was just wondering what peoples thoughts were

> regarding the new double yellow lines around East

> Dulwich? I can't say I'm too impressed by not only

> the many car parking spaces that have been taken

> away but in addition to that, I have now had the

> parking space outside my house taken away too!

> Chuffed as you can imagine!! As a result, I am now

> forced to interfere and park in neighbours spaces

> due to the new congestion.

>

> To my knowledge, I have not known any accidents to

> occur at junctions (albeit there may have been a

> few near misses) but my argument lies with the

> double yellows allowing cars to race around bends

> at breakneck speeds with their new found

> visibility rather than the caution they would take

> when their view was slightly obscured.

>

> I for one would be totally for signing a petition

> to have the yellow lines removed or at the very

> least shortened where they would be considerate

> for both drivers and residents.

>

> Whats everyone else thoughts?

Maybe just paint over them in black.