Heart108 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I heard a rumour that the Council is planning to install CCTV in Peckham Park by way of checking on dog owners and fining them if their dog is not on a leash etc? Is this just nonsense? What are the facts? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractorlad Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 How would a specific dog be recognised from CCTV? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Number plate recognition...oh wait... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 If true, it sounds completely ridiculous. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Apple technology you see Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222442 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I was joking but somebody's beaten me to the ideahttps://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/technology/2018/02/quiet-and-creeping-normalisation-facial-recognition-technology"In August 2017, the Metropolitan Police used facial recognition software at Notting Hill carnival. The practice saw the police scanning the faces of thousands of carnival-goers to see if any matched with photos of people who had previously been arrested" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 There are in fact people with extraordinary facial recognition skills who are employed by police and security forces - they can often match or beat computer driven facial recognition technology (which requires matching the angles and distances of key facial points against a database.) This technology is what is used in passport scanning applications - where your face is matched against the stored data on your photograph. The computer is comparing points, distances and angles, not the whole photograph. There are no such databases held on dogs. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Which is not to say that CCTV might not be being used for other purposes there than dogs-off-the-lead nicking! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelharris Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Big Brother is advancing apace: how long before our bobbies have these? http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/china-police-facial-recognition-sunglasses-security-smart-tech-travellers-criminals-a8206491.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222448 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Well, if you aren't doing/haven't done anything wrong you have nothing to worry about, eh?(Lights touchpaper and stands well back ..... :)) ) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DulwichFox Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Would make sense if CCTV was installed to catch people stealing 'Exotic' ? Plants. Nothing to do with Dogs. (perhaps) ? DulwichFox Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222461 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeckhamRose Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 @Penguin68 they are called SuperRecognisers. There was an online test and I scored very highly to my amazement. The Council can not afford CCTV; rather they would prefer to hand the management of parks to "Friends of...." organisations. It's a good rumour though. I also heard that the Council are thinking of spending millions to change their logo from the friendly handwritten style they have now, to a ComicSans style. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex_b Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Penguin68 Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> which requires matching the angles and distances> of key facial points against a databaseThis is not how facial recognition technology works. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 alex_b Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Penguin68 Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > which requires matching the angles and> distances> > of key facial points against a database> > This is not how facial recognition technology> works.Apples version is quite complex and seems to use multiple technologies and quite a bit of software :)https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208108 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
micromacromonkey Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 PeckhamRose Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> @Penguin68 they are called SuperRecognisers. > There was an online test and I scored very highly> to my amazement. I work at a well known department store (and crime hotspot) and we have a few working for us. The met often call us up for certain occasions (protest marches, big sporting events) to borrow them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnL Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 micromacromonkey Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> PeckhamRose Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > @Penguin68 they are called SuperRecognisers. > > There was an online test and I scored very> highly> > to my amazement. > > I work at a well known department store (and crime> hotspot) and we have a few working for us. The met> often call us up for certain occasions (protest> marches, big sporting events) to borrow them.I need something memorable to happen to remember a face or I forget. I had real hopes for this tech in google glass etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/183442-cctv-in-japanese-gardenpeckham-park/#findComment-1222616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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