Football Focus

[Otta]

Happy new year UDT.

I see you've not made a resolution to not be a twat in 2012.

[Undisputedtruth]

Here's a tune to cheer you up:

Roy Ayers - Don't stop the feeling

[Alan Medic]

Correct me if I'm wrong but did Otto not say he didn't know what happened as noone else did until the report was published? In which case how can he be completely wrong?

[Undisputedtruth]

Otta accused me of making up the facts surrounding the Suarez case. I've always maintained that Evra:

- conducted himself with dignity

- had witness statements from his team mates

- had video footage to support his case

- himself was a victim of racist behaviour

[Otta]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Otta accused me of making up the facts surrounding

> the Suarez case. I've always maintained that

> Evra:

>

> - conducted himself with dignity

> - had witness statements from his team mates

> - had video footage to support his case

> - himself was a victim of racist behaviour

None of which you could have actually known.

Anyway, I suspect Liverpool will appeal. The statement basically says that it is very subjective, and down to the opinion of the panel. Suarez never denied saying what he said, it is all about his intention, and whether intention matters within the rules. All very hazy.

[Otta]

The report states that, after being tackled by the Uruguayan, Evra asked Suarez why he had kicked him, to which the forward replied in Spanish: "Because you are black."

When Evra challenged him to repeat the answer and said he would "punch him", Suarez said: "I don't speak to blacks."

IF that is true though, then he is a cunt.

[Alan Medic]

Nice one Sunderland and what perfect timing.

[Alan Medic]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Otta accused me of making up the facts surrounding

> the Suarez case. I've always maintained that

> Evra:>

> - conducted himself with dignity

After he was fouled by Suarez the next incident was on the goal line when Evra admitted to saying to Suarez that his sister was a c**t (in Spanish). Hardly dignified.

> - had witness statements from his team mates

The statements only reflected that it was obvious Evra was upset not that anyone else heard what was going on

> - had video footage to support his case

This footage was interpreted by the panel. It wasn't definitive.

> - himself was a victim of racist behaviour

How has this anything to do with this particular case?

I'm not defending Suarez. He is guilty as charged. But your stance is based on nothing more than conjecture unless you had access to the report before everyone else, you were just guessing.

Apart from Suarez, I think LFC and in particular Kuyt come out of this really badly.

[Undisputedtruth]

Okay AM, I think I understand your game plan. I'm sorry if you don't have the same level of skill in analysing matters. I've been doing this type of analysing for such a long period of time and get them right all of the time. Guessing is for people like what Otta and you do. You wouldn't catch me on this forum asking for advice like buying an electric shaver or how to transfer data from a hard drive. That's because I'm capable in thinking for myself and able to carry out basic research. I don't like commercial music. I refuse to buy products based on brands as brands means absolutely nothing to me.

It's up to you whether you want to keep up with your game plan. But in my experience people like yourself tend to fizzle out in time. I won't be changing for sure.

[Mick Mac]

LFC made a huge error of judgement in requiring their players to support suarez before themselves knowing the full facts.

[Otta]

Do you reckon it was word from the top that made them come out and support him then? I'd assumed it was just the team sticking together rather than an order. I could be wrong though.

UDT, it must be lovely having an ego like yours. You're certainly not short of self belief, that's for sure.

[Undisputedtruth]

It's not an ego, Otta, it's self-empowerment that have evolved over a long period of time. The best bit is that I can make the inform decisions unlike the don't know any betters.

[Parkdrive]

Suarez hasn't covered himself in glory here but then nor has Dalglish and Liverpool. Can't see on what basis Liverpool can appeal.

Nice see that nasty little mercenary get subbed after another anonymous performance. I bet Citeh are glad they managed to lever him away from the Arsenal.

[Mick Mac]

Otta Wrote:

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> Do you reckon it was word from the top that made

> them come out and support him then? I'd assumed it

> was just the team sticking together rather than an

> order. I could be wrong though.

>

>

I do reckon. Yes. It would be quite a coincidence if they all independently decided to go out and have the same t shirt made up.

[Otta]

Surely they could have agreed it, then one of them got the shirt made?

I genuinely don't know, it just hadn't crossed my mind.

[Undisputedtruth]

http://forum.talkchelsea.net/topic/11344-eva-carneiro-appreciation-thread/

I was doing a bit of talent spotting on the Chelsea bench and came across Eva Carneiro, their hot Doctor. Makes me wonder why Chelsea haven't performed well this season due to their growing injury list.

[Annette Curtain]

UDT.

You do live by yourself, don't you ?

Anyway you make me laugh & that's a good thing.

Thierry Henry back at Arsenal makes me laugh ( nervously ) too.

Mind you PSG are paying David Beckham 160k a week to pull on their shirt, so it looks like a good year for the oldies, thus far.

NETTE:)(tu)

[Undisputedtruth]

My private life is none of your business AC. I couldn't crae less if my posts makes you laugh. I must admit I do find your posts rather dull.

:))

[Willard]

Extracts from the Suarez Evra case are Here if you can be arsed to sift through it.

Having read it, I'm struggling to find the inconsistencies in Suarez's evidence. The more I read it the more it looks like a playground squabble. Yes Suarez uses the word negro, Evra calls him a South American and makes reference to his sisters pussy. Nice. Grow up the pair of you.

The FA said they found Suarez guilty because of unreliable evidence, but the whole thing seems to boil down to: he said this, yeah but he said that. I can see no real reason why they've doubted Suarez's account over Evra's.

[Parkdrive]

Gary Ablett ex Liverpool and Everton player passes away aged 46

[Otta]

Agree Willard. But Suarez is being made an example of, and whilst that sucks for Liverpool, maybe it will make other players mind their actions.

[Alan Medic]

I was arsed to read the report and Suarez story changed several times during the investigation. That's a reason to doubt him I'd say.

[Willard]

Hi Alan, without wishing you to have to trawl through it all again, can you explain how it changed?

[Alan Medic]

I don't wish to trawl through it again Willard, but there were issues where his pinching of Evra and the slap on the back of the head for example, were initially claimed by Suarez as being attempts to defuse the situation. He later retracted on both counts.

[Mick Mac]

10 SPL wins in a row for Celtic. Happy New Year.