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That is a bit cake and eat it tho, isn’t it? At what point do we stop respecting other people’s opinions and beliefs because history shows us we sometimes simply have no other choice you are holding some comfort blanket that allows you to believe we are all equal and all valid and we can simply voice different options - without that ever impacting on the real world Were the racists we fought in previous generations different? Were their beliefs patronised by the elites of the time? Or do we learn lessons and avoid mistakes of the past? racists/bigots having “just as much to say” is both true and yet, a thing we have learnt from the past. The lesson was not “ooh let’s hear them out. They sound interesting and valid and as worthy of an audience as people who hold the opposite opinion” -
I don't have a beef with you. But I do have a beef with people who feel that a certain portion of the public's opinion isn't valid. I don't like racism any more than anyone else here. But I do dislike the idea that an individual's thoughts, beliefs and feelings, no matter how much I may disagree with them, are somehow worth less than my own. And I get the sense that that is what many disenfranchised voters are feeling - that they are being looked down upon as ignorant, racists who have no right to be in the conversation. And that's what brings out people on the margins and drives them towards extremes, like Reform. Whether you like it or not, the racist, bigot, anti-european nextdoor to you has just as much say in the country as you do. Intellectual superiority is never going to bring them round. -
What is your beef with me ? Why are you asking rhetorical questions? fighting me but excusing reform? have a look in the mirror you’ve lost your way
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I don't need you to tell me to 'fight against' racism. I know what it looks it like, thank you. And China would be our enemy whether we were in Europe or not (and has been for a long time), so that's immaterial. I remember covering an EDL march 12 years ago, when there was a Cons-Lib Dem coalition, so the idea that this is a new problem is rubbish. BUT Reform is doing an excellent job of galvanising a minority in reaction to smug liberals like you, who blame the electorate's collective ignorance for all the country's demons. What right have you for a moral mandate?
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