Did the River Neckinger rise in East Dulwich? (Map)

[edhistory]

Following on from the thread about "work in progress" on the Grove Vale Depression, Oglander Gap, and Earl's Sluice, this thread looks at the natural drainage south of Grove Vale.

So far I've only been able to locate one relevant map in a book, but it is unprovenaced. Here's a scan of the relevant part of the map. From the "typography" (but it's probably hand-drawn) it looks to date from the last quarter of the nineteenth century.

The headwater is roughly at the junction of Beauval Road and Woodwarde Road.

Can anyone provide a firm identification of the map?

Has anyone seen any other map?

John K

[mikeb]

Odd that the map doesn't include Lambeth Bridge but plenty of other roads after the first bridge was built.

Is there nothing in Nicholas Barton's book that helps?

[edhistory]

Barton does not help us here. He only has the Peck in our valley, and has the Neckinger source in Ruskin Park.

Unless a published source emerges these two "rivers" need names. River Chener (West) and River Chener (East) sound good to me.

What is shaping up here is a possible explanation in the landscape why this part of East Dulwich west of Lordship Lane was not part of Dulwich Manor.

John K

[mikeb]

This guy might have a view - his handwritten map seems to show Earl's Sluice draining the area north of the Effra valley.

http://www.martindknight.co.uk/MKsResearch.html

Seems to suggest this fed the canal.

Wonder if this also explains the shape of Grove Vale?

[edhistory]

Earlier this year Martin Knight told me he was about to start work on the River Peck. His results for the Nunhead area should be interesting.

As the Lordship Lane and Dog Kennel Lane route is one of the earliest roads in the area and the natural way for people to go to church on Sunday there has to be a reason that Melbourne Grove was not an early road. There is some suugestion that the route deviation is because the area between East Dulwich Grove and Grove Vale was too boggy. More reasearch is required.

John K