Extinction Rebellion: events and actions [edited subject to be more general]

[JohnL]

FreyaMikaelson Wrote:

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> Furthermore, you're not native to the UK and

> you're insulting English trades people. How does

> that make you any better than Uncle? Specially

> when yours is from personal experience, not a

> fact. You've just insulted every English trades

> person.

Just watched "Brittannia season 2" and even though Kay Burley doesn't believe a word of it - the original UK inhabitants were quite strange and the Romans had more in common with current culture.

[Captain Marvel]

Hmm

[pk]

FreyaMikaelson Wrote:

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> You don't seem to understand the concept of a

> personal opinion.

so you think that when he says "the actual truth and actual FACTS" he means opinions (that have no basis in facts)

I do you agree with you however that what he says clearly isn't based on facts

[malumbu]

Putting this thread back on track...

An interesting read about carbonising road transport https://www.transporttimes.co.uk/news.php/DECARBONISING-TRANSPORT-471/?utm_source=Transport+Times&utm_campaign=7a922f81ea-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_01_17_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c0cafa3f39-7a922f81ea-250793593 from an association pushing for better public transport. I've not checked the evidence but the views on government failures show in my mind the reason why we need the ERs of the world:

"..The result of repeated failures of road taxation to cover externalities is that we over consume roads and purchase of cleaner vehicles has been lower than forecast. The freeze in fuel duty since 2011 for example has led to 4% more traffic and an additional 4.5 million tonnes of CO2. Vehicle Excise Duty could be used much more effectively to incentivise the purchase of lower emissions vehicles. Demand management measures such as road pricing will need to be at the heart of decarbonising transport."

It doesn't refer to fears of governments on losing votes by alienating drivers but this is the prime reason for loss of the fuel tax escalator (Labour) and continued freezes under the Tories. The last changes to car tax were a complete balls up (this is an informed comment)

Watching the footy yesterday I saw an add for a scrapage scheme by Vauxhall. Not a "get rid of your older polluting vehicle for our ultra efficient clean vehicle" but for a fuggin SUV. Motor manufacturers wont change, governments wont change...... https://www.vauxhall.co.uk/sales-event.html

[katanita]

XR Lambeth and other local groups have organised a climate hustings for Dulwich and West Norwood NEXT WEDNESDAY. Details here https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dulwich-and-west-norwood-climate-hustings-tickets-82244823481?

This document suggests questions to ask candidates https://docs.google.com/document/d/1e6UzFSC-S355Zvk1n2jmvRq8hUD4o-5xji6vEcOXfJE/edit?usp=sharing.