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IlonaM

IlonaM

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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/parliament-suspension-hundreds-of-thousands-expected-at-disruptive-protests-over-prorogation-move-a4225421.html


Stop The Coup, defend democracy - protest at Downing Street

Tomorrow, 12:00 ? 14:00

SW1A 2AT

London


Parliament Returns. We protest. #RejectBrexit

Tue, 08:30 ? 23:30

Palace of Westminster

London

Sephiroth

Sephiroth

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Always honest Lou


Usually wrong


Why would these protests drive you away? An unelected prime minister is taking us towards a no deal Brexit which is the opposite of that which was promised - it?s entirely appropriate to talk about democracy, the abuse of etc

diable rouge

diable rouge

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I've lost count of the number of times Brexiters have used the veiled threat that there would be civil unrest if Brexit wasn't delivered. Whereas Remainers have demonstrated peacefully in their hundreds of thousands their opposition to Brexit and now the clear undermining of our democratic system by proroguing Parliament. We've got an unelected tinpot dictator telling Tory MPs that if they vote against No Deal they will automatically be deselected by Tory Central Office. Wake up Lou, this is how fascism creeps up, it never arrives in jackboots...
dbboy

dbboy

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Have you thought that Boris is playing a double bluff with the EU, but potentially the UK could leave as the majority at the time voted to leave the EU.


Next, you'll be calling for a General Strike on 31st October.


Referring to Nazi Germany causes offence, do you really need to introduce that?

uncleglen

uncleglen

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Sephiroth Wrote:

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> Always honest Lou

>

> Usually wrong

>

> Why would these protests drive you away? An

> unelected prime minister is taking us towards a no

> deal Brexit which is the opposite of that which

> was promised - it?s entirely appropriate to talk

> about democracy, the abuse of etc


Gordon Brown wasn't elected and he got Milliband to sig the Lisbon treaty...https://www.heritage.org/europe/report/the-eu-lisbon-treaty-gordon-brown-surrenders-britains-sovereignty

uncleglen

uncleglen

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diable rouge Wrote:

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> That's still not a reference to Nazi Germany. Keep

> trying...

Sadiq has done it for you

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/world-war-two-sadiq-khan-donald-trump-forgetting-lessons/


what an embarrassment he is turning out to be

DulwichFox

DulwichFox

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Hitler wanted a united Europe under HIS Command.

He basically invented th E.U. but was defeated.


The E.U. was formed in an attempt to prevent conflict between its members from ever happening again.

Thats what we were all told. It was more of a financial set up for which the U.K. were not really part off.


The member countries adopted the Euro as their currency. The UK kept the Pound.


Why do you think Brussels allowed us to do that ??


It meant we were Never really part of the E.U. in the Financial sector. and were subject to an exchange rate.


That's a big area were The UK lost out and have continued to do so.


Fox

pk

pk

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DulwichFox Wrote:

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> Hitler wanted a united Europe under HIS Command.

> He basically invented th E.U. but was defeated.

>

> The E.U. was formed in an attempt to prevent

> conflict between its members from ever happening

> again.

> Thats what we were all told. It was more of a

> financial set up for which the U.K. were not

> really part off.

>

> The member countries adopted the Euro as their

> currency. The UK kept the Pound.

>

> Why do you think Brussels allowed us to do that

> ??

>

> It meant we were Never really part of the E.U. in

> the Financial sector. and were subject to an

> exchange rate.

>

> That's a big area were The UK lost out and have

> continued to do so.

>

> Fox


Financial services is an area where we are already losing out as a result of a leave vote


But as usual you?re happy to spout rubbish that has no basis in reality


?Hitler invented the EU?! WTF!

Loutwo

Loutwo

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With respect, foxy has a valid point. The rise of Hitler was a second attempt by the German state, under a dictator, to take over Europe and unite it under the Third Reich. It began with the annexation of ?German speaking? regions of various neighbouring countries throughout the 1930?s and ended with them eyeing up the Soviet Union.


The EU has done a lot of good things for Europe, but it has also done a lot of not so good things. It?s treatment of Greece for one, is a shameful stain on its reputation. I think we should remain, but not because I absolutely love this capitalist loving institution for wealthy unelected elites, but because I am a pragmatist who thinks we are so badly entangled within its structure we could potentially cause a lot of immediate and possibly long lasting damage to our economy.


However, all these remain marches and two fingers at democracy make me feel very uneasy. As I?m sure they do a lot of people.


Louisa.

Loutwo

Loutwo

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Sephiroth Wrote:

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> Always honest Lou

>

> Usually wrong

>

> Why would these protests drive you away? An

> unelected prime minister is taking us towards a no

> deal Brexit which is the opposite of that which

> was promised - it?s entirely appropriate to talk

> about democracy, the abuse of etc


Prime Ministers in the U.K. are not elected as such, never have been. The party has the privilege of crowning them such. Not sure why that is always thrown up as a justification for anything people don?t agree with a government doing.


Parliament could have walked away with May?s deal three times and chose not to. This could all be done and dusted by now. The fact is, most remainers won?t be happy until we get a second referendum in which everyone decides to vote remain. It?s not going to happen. And let?s say people voted to leave again, would you remainers accept the result? Or would you want a further referendum? Maybe the question could be ?are you really really sure you want to leave??


The whole thing is getting ridiculous!


Louisa.

pk

pk

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Loutwo Wrote:

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> With respect, foxy has a valid point. The rise of

> Hitler was a second attempt by the German state,

> under a dictator, to take over Europe and unite it

> under the Third Reich. It began with the

> annexation of ?German speaking? regions of various

> neighbouring countries throughout the 1930?s and

> ended with them eyeing up the Soviet Union.

>

with respect, suggesting hitler invented the EU is ridiculous

Loutwo

Loutwo

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pk Wrote:

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> Loutwo Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > With respect, foxy has a valid point. The rise

> of

> > Hitler was a second attempt by the German

> state,

> > under a dictator, to take over Europe and unite

> it

> > under the Third Reich. It began with the

> > annexation of ?German speaking? regions of

> various

> > neighbouring countries throughout the 1930?s

> and

> > ended with them eyeing up the Soviet Union.

> >

> with respect, suggesting hitler invented the EU is

> ridiculous


With respect, if we had not had Hitler, we would not have needed the EU. The Second World War lead to European nations seeking a way of uniting nations under a umbrella organisation to prevent dictatorships such as the nazi regime. Without Hitler and his tyranny, the EU would never have happened.


Louisa.

pk

pk

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Loutwo Wrote:

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> pk Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Loutwo Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > With respect, foxy has a valid point. The

> rise

> > of

> > > Hitler was a second attempt by the German

> > state,

> > > under a dictator, to take over Europe and

> unite

> > it

> > > under the Third Reich. It began with the

> > > annexation of ?German speaking? regions of

> > various

> > > neighbouring countries throughout the 1930?s

> > and

> > > ended with them eyeing up the Soviet Union.

> > >

> > with respect, suggesting hitler invented the EU

> is

> > ridiculous

>

> With respect, if we had not had Hitler, we would

> not have needed the EU. The Second World War lead

> to European nations seeking a way of uniting

> nations under a umbrella organisation to prevent

> dictatorships such as the nazi regime. Without

> Hitler and his tyranny, the EU would never have

> happened.

>

> Louisa.


Hitler didn?t invent war or empire building or international trade you know


But even if he had it wouldn?t mean that he invented the EU

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