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Suspect you have hit the nail on the head -
Not sure what you mean by that ive heard your arguments many many times and the numbers are the numbers and the voting system is the voting  system and corbyn voted to keep it and lost massively in the election  so where are we differing? Where are we at cross-purposes? -
OK. We are clearly living in different universes, where logic takes different forms and "evidence" has different meanings. And becomes something else when questioned. We are just going round in circles, so it feels pointless to continue. -
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