CPZ zone.....

[Cyberia]

Loz Wrote:

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> Yeah, and parked cars are positively lethal.

Absolutely, Loz - silly me, I just didn't think it through. Of course cars that are parked in London are never driven there... why, that would just create a whole lot of traffic and pollution and noise!

[Huguenot]

In support of Cyberia, there is no logical argument for private car ownership in a compact urban society aside from convenience.

If cars were invented today, with traffic jams, atmospheric pollution and wars for oil noted as a by product on the marketing literature, nobody would buy them.

In the end, the blah blah blah from car campaigners will be no more than a footnote in history referencing social inertia and an unwillingness to change.

There's plenty of bright car campaigners who know that, what beats me is why they don't dedicate their enormous energy to advancing alternatives. When they don't they're either stupid or time wasting.

[richard tudor]

Zak Wrote:

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> CPZ's are a fabulous cash cow for the local

> authority

>

> Look what happened in Forest Hill:

> ""At yesterday?s meeting of Mayor and Cabinet, the

> Mayor approved the increase from ?60 to ?120pa for

> Resident?s Parking Permits. Visitors permits will

> also double, going up from ?2.80 to ?5.60 daily.

> Weekly permits will now cost the same as five

> daily permits instead of three".

>

> Don't be fooled by assurances from Southwark -

> they need money and lots of it!

> Charges for CPZs will only ever go in one

> direction - up!

At least someone else appreciates the financial aspect of CPZ and the damage it will cause to the local community. More old people left alone due to parking costs.

Southwark needs loads, ?150 million to buy Tooley Street to start with.

[Loz]

Cyberia Wrote:

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> Loz Wrote:

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> > Yeah, and parked cars are positively lethal.

>

> Absolutely, Loz - silly me, I just didn't think it

> through. Of course cars that are parked in London

> are never driven there... why, that would just

> create a whole lot of traffic and pollution and

> noise!

On that basis, each and every car these days contains at least one computer, arguably with more control over the car workings than the driver. So you've just answered your own original question, then.