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Have just spotted this Draft TMO on the Southwark site.


https://www.southwark.gov.uk/assets/attach/32142/Map-based-system-static-restrictions-notice-dated-21-Jan-2021-.pdf


Long and detailed, but according to the explanatory note it:


?constitutes a re-drafting of the existing parking places restrictions within the London Borough of Southwark to be compliant with the requirements of map-based Traffic Management Orders;

(ii) the implementation of this Order shall revoke all references to any previous Orders enacted by the London Borough of Southwark in relation to any restrictions represented in this Order and make no material change to any existing restriction; and

(iii) those existing restrictions enacted through on-going Experimental Traffic Orders will continue to progress through to the evaluation and completion of each scheme.?


There is a similar order for waiting / loading restrictions.


The public notice says that ?the effect of the proposals is to reintroduce all static parking, waiting, loading and stopping restrictions borough-wide into a new map-based format. There will be no material change to any of the operational specifications or dimensions of those restrictions.? I imagine (don?t know) they?re implementing something along the lines of this https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/Buchanan-launches-traffic-order-data-open-API-for-ParkMap-/5444. Hopefully ex-dulwicher or someone in the know can come along and enlighten us!


Consultation closes on 11 February. I guess if anyone has any particular issues / things they want to double check have been properly transposed (thinking things like loading bays for businesses) it might be worth doing so...

Just rereading the fine print, ?Copies of this notice, the proposed orders, and a statement of the council's reasons for making the orders may be found online at www.southwark.gov.uk/trafficorders, paper copies may be obtained from Highways, Environment and Leisure, 3rd floor hub 2, 160 Tooley Street, London SE1 2QH and/or access to the map-based Schedules may both be arranged by appointment only. Email [email protected] (or call 020 7525 3497) for booking details.?


So seems as though access to the maps is by appointment. I assume you can get remote access, as going into the council office to have a look would be illegal at the moment (no justifiable reason for leaving home)? If that?s the case I don?t think this would work as a consultation - from a quick look at similar consultations done by Kingston and Wokingham a few years ago (these come up if you google), it seems clear that the general rules on TMO consultations apply even though this is a consultation).


Given the nature of the order this shouldn?t be a massive deal, but given all the permit rules etc are being harmonised, I guess issues may come up if there have been any ?special cases?in the past that haven?t been picked up by the council?s internal processes...

@Legalien. Thanks for flagging. It is hard to tell if any new conditions have been included here. I don't tend to use the parking bays but notice on page 12 that there are different parking charges for diesel vs other cars. I wonder on what grounds given ULEZ covers the entry into the zone for diesel cars. Hard to tie this to emissions when a car is parked up. Is this differential parking new and just buried in here?

Have had a quick check for the main categories of permit against the Southwark website (existing charges at https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking/find-somewhere-to-park/pay-for-parking?chapter=5 and https://www.southwark.gov.uk/parking/parking-permits). All the permits look like the same rate (there is an existing discount scheme for hybrid and electric vehicles for permits), but the differential parking charges for one off "pay for parking" seem to be new - i.e. the different, higher rates for diesel vehicles.


Does anyone know whether there is a different diesel rate on the existing "pay by phone" meters etc? (I guess it's possible the Southwark website is not up to date, and this already exists)?


If this is a new rate, and they're including it in the consolidation order then it does feel a little as though it's being put through "under the radar" - but I guess they don't technically have to consult on price rises. The order itself says that "There will be no material change to any of the operational specifications or dimensions of those restrictions", and I guess price isn't an operational specification, so that's true!


On a related note, I put a link on another thread to some proposed changes to parking charges that were included as an agenda item for a recent Overview and Scrutiny committee meeting - these did vary depending on ULEZ compliance, but not sure where that discussion/ proposal has got to.

Partial update: the highways team has (promptly and helpfully) advised that anyone wishing to check on the details for a particular area can email them on the traffc orders email address above and ask to be emailed a pdf map for the specific area. They weren't sure about the diesel parking charges point and suggested emailing the parking team. Have done so and will post if I get a response.
  • 1 month later...

Just to update on the higher diesel rate for pay and display bays, one of the briefing notes for next week's Environment Scrutiny Commission indicates that


"A diesel surcharge in pay and display bays was agreed by Cabinet through the budget setting process in 2020/21 and will be implemented this financial year." The council is considering other options in relation to an emissions based parking policy.


http://moderngov.southwark.gov.uk/documents/s94320/Air%20Quality%20Climate%20Emegency%20Community%20Energy%20recommendations%20tracked.pdf


There's a separate paper re further CPZ roll out which I'll post separately.

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