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[TheCat]

Blah Blah Wrote:

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> diable rouge Wrote:

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> > You're certainly a gambler Cat, and a reckless

> one

> > at that.

> > I'm afraid you're going to have to dismiss the

> > first 5 years of that 5-10 year plan of yours,

> > given that the 'muppets' that delivered Brexit

> > are, surprise, surprise, still in charge, and

> > might well be for the full 10 years. Then what?

> >

> > I note no mention of the social impact Brexit

> is

> > having, in particular as Seph alludes to,

> Northern

> > Ireland and the peace process, all foreseen. Is

> > that a price worth paying for your concept,

> > acceptable collateral damage (no pun intended)?

> > Which reminds me, you wouldn't have been living

> > here during the Troubles, it wasn't nice, even

> on

> > the Mainland. Will it need a couple of

> terrorist

> > bombs to go off in London to make you sit up

> and

> > notice?

> >

> > I thought that you could've at least pointed me

> in

> > some direction beyond a simplistic 'concept',

> say

> > a Norway style deal that would've at least

> > addressed the issue of NI. A half-way house

> > reflecting the closeness of the vote, gave both

> > sides the opportunity to either later form

> closer

> > ties with the EU or pull further away,

> depending

> > how things went. Surely that's more in keeping

> > with a 5-10 year plan than living in hope that

> one

> > day a more competent Gov might or might not

> rock

> > up...

>

> And to be clear, THIS is the post Cat has avoided

> responding properly to for an entire page while he

> plays his usual silly games of deflection and

> troll psychology.

>

> So Cat, will it really need a couple of terrorist

> bombs to go off for you to understand how

> precarious this all is for the GFA? Or do you

> genuinely not give a hoot.

Well apparently you read all my posts properly..so you should know that I already discussed this on the other brexit thread recently. Where I specifically expressed concern about the situation in NI....and stated that despite the recovery in trade in Feb being a clear positive, the NI station was a worry.

But in case you missed it...now you know.

What question would like answered next?

PS; You'll also notice on that thread that there were some questions which I have asked of others, which remain unanswered. I'm sure you're just about to take others to task for not addressing the points being discussed...as you have done here with me....

[Sephiroth]

I think the question remains - yes you acknowledge the downsides theoretically but you don?t really have any skin in those games. And you still want to push on for your hypothetical (and unrealistic) wins

Given the likes of arch leavers like Roland Smith (who is someone I consider you akin to - middle aged, white, relatively privaliged, savvy, eu sceptic and agitator for leave for many years) has so clearly changed his mind - the question is why do you think you retain some vision of the Truth about all of this and persist with your Vision of Leave. Which won?t happen. And you will blame clowns like Johnson. A clown you needed to even get Brexit

Because the whole thing is a scam. It?s one you have your reasons for going along with. But they aren?t good reasons and the cost is too high

[TheCat]

Ummm....so...you're saying that I acknowledge downsides of my view, and also point to some of the upsides...

And somehow that is unreasonable for you?

[Sephiroth]

Yes because your upsides are not going to happen. And people are telling you they won?t and why

Just like they said fishermen would be screwed, Irish border would be a problem etc.

But you persist (because you have ?reasons?)

It?s a con. And it?s a folly. And the people who are the engine behind it (yes the racists. Yes the people who call uk law and establishment saboteurs. Yes the actually nutty posters on here. Those people ) don?t seem like your kind of people. But you think somehow when the dust settles you will have those people in check?

[Seabag]

As you were , double posted

[TheCat]

TheCat Wrote:

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> No. Labour can't get anywhere near power becuase

> they're usually just a bit sh1t.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/may/04/labour-tories-voters-keir-starmer

Discuss......

[hammerman]

I would love to discuss but these last three pages seem to have a majority view by three or four posters so goodnight!

[j.a.]

hammerman Wrote:

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> I would love to discuss but these last three pages

> seem to have a majority view by three or four

> posters so goodnight!

What a marvellous bit of passive-aggressive nonsense.

[hammerman]

Indeed.