Jersey Blockade

[Plough Man]

Can't figure out why the usual keyboard warriors have not mentioned this matter yet. No anguish and not even "I told you so"

Is there any difference between (a) UK bivalves not meeting new EU regulations and (b) French fishing vessels not complying with the regulation on having tracking equipment?

[Alan Medic]

Regarding (a), they are not NEW EU regulations. They applied to third countries prior to Brexit. The way it has been reported here by most of the media suggests the EU just made them up to spite the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/02/eu-rules-on-some-types-of-shellfish-leave-uk-fishermen-devastated

[j.a.]

As Alan said, we knew ahead of time what the rules on shellfish are. Certain sections of the media chose to present this as the EU being difficult. That was a lie by the media.

The situation in Jersey is different; here it would seem this is one of those post-Brexit things that needs to be worked out.

I?m sure the sending of ?gunboats? and the timing of the elections is entirely coincidental.

[Nigello]

Two French navy vessels have joined two from the British Royal Navy that were dispatched to the self-governing Channel Island of Jersey, where about eighty French boats have held a protest over their access to fishing grounds. A French government minister, Clement Beaune, said France would not be intimidated by the presence of the Royal Navy. A statement issued by the European Commission says that restrictions on French fishing boats should be lifted because Britain has not adhered to post-Brexit fishing provisions. The dispute escalated after a French minister warned that the electricity supply to Jersey might be cut off.

Pretty fair and balanced and - importantly - full of facts from BBC World Service

[malumbu]

Oh I assumed that this was Jersey planning to become an independent nation, leaving the crown, and being a new Singapore. Disappointed. Worked there one summer, strange place. Although nice for a holiday. Nothing like it was on Bergerac. The John Nettles TV series.

[Blah Blah]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Regarding (a), they are not NEW EU regulations.

> They applied to third countries prior to Brexit.

> The way it has been reported here by most of the

> media suggests the EU just made them up to spite

> the UK.

>

> https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/02/e

> u-rules-on-some-types-of-shellfish-leave-uk-fisher

> men-devastated

More than that, Farage was on the EU fisheries committee that put those new rules in place back in 2004. The only problem is that he never turned up to most of those committee meetings. Still happy to retire on his EU pension though, while fishermen literally go to the wall. He never cared then, and he doesn't care now.

[Blah Blah]

j.a. Wrote:

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> As Alan said, we knew ahead of time what the rules

> on shellfish are. Certain sections of the media

> chose to present this as the EU being difficult.

> That was a lie by the media.

>

> The situation in Jersey is different; here it

> would seem this is one of those post-Brexit things

> that needs to be worked out.

>

> I?m sure the sending of ?gunboats? and the timing

> of the elections is entirely coincidental.

Exactly that. Government has essentially said it is for Jersey to decide their rules, so a bit of negotiation is perhaps all that is needed. Fishing was always a stupid thing to push to the fore. Fish swim where they want and all sides need free movement of catch and exports.

[Sephiroth]

And as has been noted - no problems between France and Guernsey

[Spartacus]

I'm disappointed

Came onto this thread thinking it was a knitwear discussion.

Oh well, guess I was fishing for something different !

[Sephiroth]

If you don't wear a good Jersey, you will be Friesian

[JohnL]

Why are the newspapers shouting that the French ran away.

They went home for supper with the tide - what did you think they were going to do.

[Spartacus]

JohnL Wrote:

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> Why are the newspapers shouting that the French

> ran away.

>

> They went home for supper with the tide - what did

> you think they were going to do.

Jumper up and down 😆

[TheCat]

The Jersey govt have basically now admitted that they incorrectly applied the licensing versus what is outlined in the TCA....

Fisherman protested against the jersey. Jersey have acknowledged their misunderstanding/mis-execution, and agreed that they will work it out. End of storm in teacup.

Both the French and the British didn't help matters, and neither should have got involved. Nothing to see here.

[malumbu]

I heard that the Italians have already surrendered.

Sorry, I hate these crass stereotypes. I went to an interesting talk about WW1 once that talked about how well the French fought. Rather than this stereotype of WWII - and we choose to forget how important the French were in helping get the troops back from Dunkurque/Dunkirk.