Matt Hancock's lies

[alice]

Sephiroth Wrote:

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> Mellor was the story - but I don't think it was

> ever a real thing - an concoction by Max Clifford

> is my recollection

not untrue. I can remember seeing the photo

[Sephiroth]

Easily findable then surely?

I would still suggest it was a staged photo

[malumbu]

Rather sweeping statement about the public and food safety. Half the reason we got to this situation was the demand for cheap food.

JSG was not a great agriculture minister. The 'stunt' which I remember at the time back fired as the burger was too hot for his daughter.

Yet subsequently as the environment minister and now chair of the Climate Change Committee Gummer (aka Lord Debden) has become a hero of the environmental movement. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/feb/14/climate-change-floods-government

Anyway totally off thread but I have a lot of respect for his later activities, not often a fan of Tory ministers.

JohnL Wrote:

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> Strange how memories go - I listed Gummer as an

> example of a scandal but I must have been wrong so

> deleted it - all I can find is -

>

> "At the Suffolk Boat Show on 16 May 1990, then

> agriculture secretary John Gummer tried to feed

> his four-year-old daughter Cordelia a burger.

>

> THE STUNT backfired horribly. Cordelia refused to

> eat it and the whole incident only heightened

> concern about BSE and reinforced public cynicism

> about politicians? pronouncements on food

> safety."

>

> who sucked the toe - was it Mellor ?

[Seabag]

Really and seriously, snogging a turd like Handcock.

FFS, bad taste all round. He once did a press conference whilst ?saving lives? wearing an orange plastic strapped watch.

You?d think Mrs Oliver Bonas might have more taste, but it seems his slimy hand on the arse whilst sixth form snogging is quite exiting.

That given, you?re hardly going to get the sack (for anything) from Bojo?s Circus are you.

And so the sh1t show rolls on.

[TheCat]

Seems like a lot of manufactured outrage here.

Objection to Ferguson going across town a year ago, is different to 'clinches' in the stairwell....and even if it isn't....apart from his wife and her husband, and their kids...who give a f?ck.....I've said this about cheating politicians of all colours.....it's an amusing situation (I use that loosely)...but does it really impact their job......?

He was doing a sh-t job anyway...did this really make a difference?

[Alan Medic]

I can't see how Hancock can ever be taken seriously again as the health minister in a pandemic. For that reason alone he really has to go. Giving a substantial PPE contract to the woman's brother is almost what we expect from this shower. If he has broken 'the law' as it was then, shouldn't he face consequences? He was quite keen for Ferguson to do so.

[JohnL]

It's going to be like pulling his fingernails out one by one until he quits.

Full video out today.

[intexasatthe moment]

Johnson standing by him .Is this because if he went there's a danger that Johnson would have to lift a finger and do some work? Or does Johnson not want to look like a hypocrite and has negotiated that Hancock resigns of his own volition ?

[alex_b]

TheCat Wrote:

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> Seems like a lot of manufactured outrage here.

>

> Objection to Ferguson going across town a year

> ago, is different to 'clinches' in the

> stairwell....and even if it isn't....apart from

> his wife and her husband, and their kids...who

> give a f?ck.....I've said this about cheating

> politicians of all colours.....it's an amusing

> situation (I use that loosely)...but does it

> really impact their job......?

>

> He was doing a sh-t job anyway...did this really

> make a difference?

I think it does make a difference for a few reasons.

First the hypocrisy, yes Fergusson was across town in a lockdown, but Hancock demanded his resignation and prosecution He also explicitly told people not to hug family members two days before that photo was taken.

Second and more importantly is the use of public funds, he used our money to pay her and appears to have also given her brother a huge PPE contract.

Finally his answer to any question (e.g. over the Cummings testimony) has been I?ve been 100% focused on our NHS. This is clearly a lie because at least some of his time was spent employing his girlfriend so they could have fun times in the office.

[JohnL]

If the papers (and it's the Mail leading) don't have a string of things to follow up on I'd be surprised.

There will be no "leak" investigation either. You do wonder who's behind this.

[malumbu]

The PM should have done the right thing at the time, sacking Cummings last summer and the Health Secretary now. Most former ministers come back at a later time when things have died down so generally not the end of your career. Oddly it was the making in some ways for Profumo, as he dedicated the rest of his life to charity.

The PM would get credit from those of us who don't particularly rate him, and it would have no damage at all to his majority as the masses probably don't care either way. His inability to make a decision is probably his biggest fault. There are lots. And all PMs have faults, just this one more than most.

[malumbu]

Mind you am I the only one who found the story to be quite salacious? Is that a good healthy thing, or do I need urgent counselling?

[diable rouge]

Too much info malumbu, the thought of you getting a stiffy watching *that* video is worse than the video itself...

[diable rouge]

Correction. The 'sound-on' version of the video would be worse. A lot worse...

[Seabag]

For this face mask alone he should go.

https://apple.news/AjTH6zUC6SQivso5lZ4Kdog

He is shameless.

[malumbu]

You are making an assumption DR, I may be getting a female or other sexual identity equivalent to a stiffy, but worried that this may take me to the dark places currently under discussion elsewhere on the forum. In deed too much information.....

[Seabag]

malumbu Wrote:

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> You are making an assumption DR, I may be getting

> a female or other sexual identity equivalent to a

> stiffy, but worried that this may take me to the

> dark places currently under discussion elsewhere

> on the forum. In deed too much information.....

I reckon he?s got a small one, I don?t know why, but I just do. Whilst on the other hand, Boris has got a thick one

Handcock?s wife will tell everyone everything eventually, whilst being interviewed by Piers Morgan one day in the future.

?It?s wasn?t very big, no?

[malumbu]

The fat lady has sung and the taxi has been called. The PM though is rather sorry.

[malumbu]

Although no apology from the Health Secretary for his wrong doing

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/matt-hancocks-resignation-letter-and-the-prime-ministers-response

[JohnL]

He can now spend more time with his App

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42902684

[Seabag]

Jaaaaz

The vanity knows no end.

I think Edwina Curry coming out in his defence did it for him

[diable rouge]

:)...

 

[JohnL]

JohnL Wrote:

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> He can now spend more time with his App

>

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42902684

I missed this bit - a new suspect emerges (The App writer)

"Some Apple smartphone users fear their privacy has been compromised after responding to an on-screen prompt asking for access to their photo library.

The app then appears to gain access to the photo library whether the user denies access or not."

I'll add that suspect to the others - the wife, the boss, the disgruntled ex SPAD, the rest of the UK population.

[Seabag]

And by Boris? warm words, he?ll be back ?in public service? soon enough

[Earl Aelfheah]

Seabag Wrote:

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> And by Boris? warm words, he?ll be back ?in public

> service? soon enough

Yep, and he continues to draw his taxpayer funded ?80K a year as an MP in the meantime.