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Jeremy Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

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> > To discuss God, unlike a frog, is very

> difficult

> > as you may all be using a three lettered word

> to

> > describe your concept of what that means and

> > therefore talk at cross purposes.

>

> But this discussion is in the context of

> Christianity (or particular strands of it), where

> the concept of "God" is pretty well defined.

>

Good point. I keep forgetting it's understood we are talking about a man with a beard and pearly gates sort of thing.

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> WorkingMummy Wrote:

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> > To clarify: I disagree with everything you say,

> > other than the idea that god (a theistic one at

> > least) is an idea which human beings,

> especially

> > those made vulnerable by crippling poverty and

> > lack of education, neither need nor deserve.

>

> So which bit do you disagree with?



That we can recognise anything with something other than our brains.


That ambiguity in the word "frog" (Frenchman/amphibian) somehow undermines the significance of the startling lack of evidence of the exustence of any god.


But this is now the type of conversation I don't want to have on my doorstep. (Fully recognising, Alan, that you have neither knocked on my door, nor are trying to "introduce" me to god.)


:-)

WorkingMummy Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > WorkingMummy Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > > To clarify: I disagree with everything you

> say,

> > > other than the idea that god (a theistic one

> at

> > > least) is an idea which human beings,

> > especially

> > > those made vulnerable by crippling poverty

> and

> > > lack of education, neither need nor deserve.

> >

> > So which bit do you disagree with?

>

>

> That we can recognise anything with something

> other than our brains.


Well you wouldn't be able to unless you had. That's all I'm saying.

This god stuff reminds me of the Puppet Song by the Incredible String Band-


"...so the little man climbed up on a rickety ladder, to the heavenly lands

and he shed a tear, 'it's all so queer and it doesn't seem clear'


now God was sitting easy in a heavenly chair

breathing deep and lazy on the heavenly air

the little man got near him just to get right from wrong

said 'God are you responsible for all that goes on'

God looked up from having a heavenly think

he gave that little questioner a heavenly wink, saying


'men have coloured me with the colours of their minds

so I find

they used me as an excuse for all kinds of goofs

and for crimes of all kinds

all your so hard facts painted thinly on the void

why were you not more pleasantly employed

anything you want to do, I'm happy if you make it go right

and it's true if it makes you happy you know it makes the

world more bright

and you shall have liberty

it always was yours anyway

you're one of my kind, you're an infinite mind

you make each new day

there's nothing more I can say'...." It's much longer than this

I think the world can happily accommodate 100 billion people, especially if mana rains from the heavens or whatever would happen.


Of course if the world is only 5,000 years old, then there have probably only been about 10 million people in existence so should ahppily fit them all.

Waiiiit a minute, something's wrong here......

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