legalalien Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 See https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/29/dulwich-fireworks-night-goes-green-with-virtual-bonfire-and-sparkler-ban-15333961/Big screen bonfire instead of the traditional wood burning thing.Apparently Dulwich is known for its trendy, cosmopolitan and right on residents. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16273408/firework-display-bonfire-replaced-big-screen-tv/ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernmonkey Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 I think it was one of very few remaining bonfires and it?s good it?s not happening any more. The amount of pollution bonfires cause is horrendous and they?re unnecessary. Fireworks not really green either so the green idea is overplaying the hand but less pollution is positive. Bring on the LED drones! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalalien Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 Thanks.I agree.We just need to get the price of drones down.Interested to hear what others think. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelina Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I'd rather noisy fireworks were banned - they have a far greater detrimental impact Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomskip Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 If bonfires are going to be banned why not ban the ubiquitous wood burning stove too? I'm sure they spew out far more particulates into the atmosphere all winter long than bonfires on one night. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Funny you should say that: "?Eco? wood stoves emit 750 times more pollution than an HGV, study shows"https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/09/eco-wood-stoves-emit-pollution-hgv-ecodesign Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalalien Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 I?m in favour of that. Although with the potential for a winter of potentially soaring gas prices the timing may not be great?. Are there many wood burning stoves in London do we think? I?m not sure I?ve seen a lot : any when visiting people although I have seen some people unpacking wood from cars ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundTable Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Even better would be if they told the cafe van that parks on their car park to turn off the engine for the 2+ hours it sits there on Sunday morning. Seriously, it keeps its engine running for hours. A couple of Sunday?s ago it was plugged in at an electricity point and it was so much more pleasant, but last week the engine was back on. I can?t imagine why folks have not said anything about it. I?ve asked if he could be at least be asked to park as far away as possible from the kids, but I was ignored.Sometimes he is parked right against the hockey pitches, engine running for hours. Makes perfect sense. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalalien Posted October 9, 2021 Author Share Posted October 9, 2021 I think that must be at Dulwich College Sports club, not Dulwich Sports Club, given the hockey pitch reference. Might be worth contacting the school? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernmonkey Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 I don?t think it should be either or. In answer to whether there are many wood burners in London- the answer is sadly, yes lots and ever growing in https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2021/feb/16/home-wood-burning-biggest-cause-particle-pollution-firestomskip Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> If bonfires are going to be banned why not ban the> ubiquitous wood burning stove too? I'm sure they> spew out far more particulates into the atmosphere> all winter long than bonfires on one night. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 legalalien Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> See> https://metro.co.uk/2021/09/29/dulwich-fireworks-n> ight-goes-green-with-virtual-bonfire-and-sparkler-> ban-15333961/> > Big screen bonfire instead of the traditional wood> burning thing.> > Apparently Dulwich is known for its trendy,> cosmopolitan and right on residents. > > https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16273408/firework-di> splay-bonfire-replaced-big-screen-tv/It's going to be a disappointment to those hoping to do baked potatoes or roasted marshmallows on the night 😱To be honest, better to have nothing then a fake bonfire in my opinion Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernmonkey Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 The bonfire is fenced off- no one can get close anyway Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonajl Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Not much. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541578 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oimissus Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Well, that sounds pretty miserable. In the grander scheme of things, a few bonfires on Bonfire Night is hardly the eco crime of the century. And I would rather there were official bonfires with firework displays and ban sale of fireworks otherwise. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
northernmonkey Posted October 9, 2021 Share Posted October 9, 2021 Most displays in London don?t have bonfires, just fireworks. I too would like to see permit only displays. So large scale organised ones. If private individuals wanted them they?d need a permit with approval from the fire brigade re set up and safety (and would want a charge to be made for this) so the overall effect was private displays become the exception Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541592 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Performative nonsense. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Bonfire night is literally a performance.@legalalien: I have no idea of numbers but they are around - quite a few people have firewood stacked in their doorways etc. There's a geezer on our street that has one and when he lights it the whole street smells of smoke. I have no idea if being within smelling distance of it also means being within coughing distance of it if you has asthma, COVID etc Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigello Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Then it?s performative squared. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angelina Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 Isn?t fireworks really celebrating an epic failure?Or a reminder that the government has continually failed? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
legalalien Posted October 10, 2021 Author Share Posted October 10, 2021 The meaning changes across the years apparently:https://publish.illinois.edu/iaslibrary/2012/11/03/remember-remember-the-5th-of-november/I didn?t know that Anonymous had adopted the Guy Fawkes masks as part of an anti Scientology protest. Learn something new every day? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomskip Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 There seem to be a lot of woodburners near me judging by the smell outside post 6pm on a winter night. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanm Posted October 11, 2021 Share Posted October 11, 2021 There are no hockey pitches at Dulwich Sports Club, I think you must be thinking of Dulwich College. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1541949 Share on other sites More sharing options...
handh Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I'd guess they couldn't get insurance for a real bonfire anymore and this is putting a brave green spin on it. But dulwich sports club always put on a good show and I usually go with the family. I think most people go for the fireworks and the cheap beer not the bonfire, and the club deserves our support, it's not been an easy couple of years for community sports clubs. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1543303 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Why do you think they couldn't get insurance? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1543497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
handh Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Dogkennelhillbilly Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Why do you think they couldn't get insurance?If you google it you will see many other event organisations are in the same position. You can get cover for a professional fireworks display, but insurance companies aren't keen to cover an actual bonfire. I'm not an expert but guess people try to get too close to the bonfire or wind blows the fire around and maybe they're worried people will sue. I remember the insurance costs being high from a personal experience many years ago and it can only have got worse. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/295419-green-bonfire-at-dulwich-sports-club-what-do-people-think/#findComment-1543926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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