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The Times figures seem to come from this report, which is quite interesting reading - DoT monitoring seems to be focusing on the data from the trials, but as the report points out the bigger risks and casualties are coming from illegal private use and there needs to be a way of capturing that data


https://www.pacts.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/PACTS-The-safety-of-private-e-scooters-in-the-UK-Report-3.0.pdf


The committee has an ongoing spreadsheet on its website


https://www.pacts.org.uk/assessing-the-safety-of-private-e-scooter-use-in-the-uk-pacts-research/

legalalien Wrote:

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> Interesting article in today?s Times about

> e-scooter injuries and in particular the fact that

> anyone injured while illegally riding an escooter

> on the road or footpath may not be able to sue for

> personal injury


It is a little disappointing that the Times journalist didn't explain the point of law that's in dispute!

legalalien wrote:

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> the fact that anyone injured while illegally riding

> an escooter on the road or footpath may not be able

> to sue for personal injury -there?s a test case upcoming.


The actual words used were "might not be able to successfully sue". It would be a very dysfunctional legal system that prohibited access to itself.

There is the person who, seemingly most days of the week, bombs around Dulwich Park on his electric scooter wearing a motorcycle helmet and backpack. He seems to just go round and round the park doing loads of laps - does he think he is getting exercise doing it? The park was very busy today and you could see he was annoying people as he weaved his way around the people walking.
We cannot rely on the police (remember them?) to stop those breaking the law on e-scooters. Hard Paddington stares and brisk tsk-tsks are all we have in our arsenal...


It rather depends on the force, the area and their respective priorities. I've posted before about City of London and Met Police who are big on policing the cycle lane and crossings around Blackfriars Bridge from time to time, both for private e-scooters and cyclists running the lights. I've seen them ticketing e-scooter riders and (in one case) confiscating an e-scooter (I suspect on safety grounds as it looked like it was on last legs).

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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/5082b26c-8b4e-11ec-b5fe-7fe087ff87b5?shareToken=47431d423f6127b3a144c4987c05d80b


Another interesting article in the Times

today, with more safety concerns and a small

amount of digging around about mis-selling. Pedestrians - keep your wits about you!


Apparently they?ve banned escooters on the Parliamentary estate.

Has anyone posting actually been on an e scooter? I expect they are great fun, as well as the personal mobility. It's a bit like the line in 'Trainspotting' when Renton explains why he takes heroin. Because of the wonderful hit. Not that I have done or recommend either. Just that they are here to stay and many want them and like them. Not sure how comparable the war in drugs and the war on scooters are though!

A bit like drugs they are both dangerous and soon to be available on most street corners! Like drugs it is the medical and support services who have to pick up the pieces.


Ask any hospital A&E and they will tell you how dangerous they are, but unlike drugs councils think it's a good idea to get more people using them. ;-)


Today we were going to Soho for lunch and were at Loughborough junction at a red light in a cab and someone on an electric scooter stopped at the junction, ignored the lights and just accelerated across the junction. The acceleration was incredible and he flew across it, soon caught up cars heading up the road and he shot down the left-hand side of them. An accident waiting to happen.


I am sure they are great fun but they are inherently dangerous and will cause more problems they solve and I cannot work out why councils think they are a good idea.


You can probably tell I have no intention of using one....scooters should remain for exclusive use of small children! ;-)

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