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Was planning to go to Kharkiv for a short holiday this summer. As last year's developments progressed I decided to cancel. I've been worrying about Ukraine for several years now, and over the past few days am beginning to feel rather terrified. Any Ukrainian people (or Russians) on the forum willing to share their opinions?
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diable rouge

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Hopefully this is just more grandstanding on Putin's part, playing to a domestic audience and in the process seeing how the West/Nato reacts. It hasn't exactly been a united front in that respect. France and Macron seem to be the main players.


Russia/Putin has been seeking to weaken the Western/Nato alliance for sometime now, and why they were so keen on the success of Trump and Brexit, both seen as destabilisers, France also accused Russia of 'interfering' their Presidential election.


Bill Browder is worth checking out, he reckons that the West just needs to 'follow the money' and cut-off Putin's money supplies in the West, e.g. London based oligarchs, and he would soon back-off. And on that subject, just who and how much Russian money is financially influencing our politics? Hasn't the Tory party in particular received donations from UK based Russians?...

KidKruger

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Loutwo Wrote:

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> Any invasion could spark a mass exodus of civilian

> populations towards the EU borders. It would cause

> a migrant crisis of millions. It?s a frightening

> situation for everyone.

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> Louisa.


Which would suit Putin just fine, I imagine !

malumbu

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Looks like we are all lapping up what the Western powers are telling us. Now that may well be right but history will tell. An alternative view by Simon Jenkins in the Guardian, a border dispute and nothing to do with us. You may well disagree but worth a read in any case.


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/20/britain-russia-ukraine-border-dispute

diable rouge

diable rouge

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SpringTime Wrote:

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> Five banks sanctioned along with three people.

> That'll scare Putin. Pathetic.


He's not going to cut-off money supplies to the Tory coffers.


Johnson's Boosterism exposed yet again as Blusterism...

diable rouge

diable rouge

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Pray for the uber-Brexiters in the coming weeks who will get into all sorts of contortions and convolutions as they try and justify an illegal Russian invasion of an independent sovereign nation that just happens to be pro-EU.


Seems the 'will of the people' only applies to their own causes...

Sephiroth

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Global Britain, enfeebled by Brexit and Russian money, looking very lame today


Just weeks ago it was all ?Germany is so laaaaame?


Yet here we are with Germany cutting gas ties and Johnson lying/pretending that people like abramovich have already been sanction.


Absolutely pathetic.

SpringTime

SpringTime

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The US sanctions are naff as well. As for the gas for Germany et al - I don't think Putin will flinch. It can be kept, forgotten, or sold to someone else. The Russian regime will not care! Sanctions didn't work last time and these delicate pats on Putin's head certainly won't work this time. Does anyone think that freezing the assets of a few individuals (or even a few thousand) will do anything at all? The regime can reimburse them anyway...
SpringTime

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PS If anyone's interested in further angles on this then Nikolai Tolstoy is talking about the Russia-Ukraine conflict at the Royal Geographical Society from 7pm to 8.30pm on Tuesday 22nd March with drinks beforehand; proceeds to go to orphans in Russia and Georgia. I'm going (but shan't be drinking).


https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/nikolai-tolstoy-on-the-history-behind-the-russia-and-ukraine-conflict-tickets-269633118917

JohnL

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"On Wednesday the pope said the threat of war in Ukraine had caused ?great pain in my heart?, and urged politicians to make a serious examination of conscience before God about their actions."


This is a bit wimpy


To be fair he should be condemning Putin and his cohorts souls to eternal damnation.

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