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Chick Wrote:

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> "You keep saying I'm not answering but I am

> answering and you aren't listening - Putin is

> using NATO as an excuse to justify his behaviour -

> and STW are buying it and repeating it. SO they

> are defect supporting Putin. I'm not saying STW

> literally back the ware - I'm saying they are

> giving Putin support by agreeing with his lies"

>

> Putin doesn't need an excuse, look at Crimea in

> 2014.

>

> No body in STW supports or gives sucker to Putin.

> What you are suggesting is as daft as saying if

> you support a united Ireland you must support the

> IRA.



I truly think what Putin fears the most is a fully functioning healthy democracy on his doorstep in Ukraine

As Peter Tatchell points out, STW have previous when it comes to covert support for Putin and Russia...


When we stood in solidarity with #Syria's democrats against Russian imperialism in 2016, Stop the War did NOT condemn #Russia's terror bombing of civilians in #Aleppo & other Syrian cities. They called us "agents of US imperialism"

So what. Tatchell doesn't represent any body apart from Tatchell.


I still haven't seen any evidence to suggest STW are pro Russian, quite the opposite.


Don't forget we were happy to bomb Syria.



diable rouge Wrote:

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> As Peter Tatchell points out, STW have previous

> when it comes to covert support for Putin and

> Russia...

>

> When we stood in solidarity with #Syria's

> democrats against Russian imperialism in 2016,

> Stop the War did NOT condemn #Russia's terror

> bombing of civilians in #Aleppo & other Syrian

> cities. They called us "agents of US imperialism"

Thanks for the separate conversation, I took a look at what the left and right are saying, and some of the (probable) conspiracy theorists. Nothing makes this right, even if there is an ounce of justification.


Someone put it to me, what if you got a Marxist anti-American government in Mexico, who started posturing and siding with the 'wrong' countries. How long would it take for the US to step in. It didn't take the West long to step into Kuwait, and then subsequently invade a sovereign state with a dictator that the West had propped up (Iraq). Of course they had oil, rather than the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.


Anyway some thoughts rather than gospel.

malumbu Wrote:

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> Someone put it to me, what if you got a Marxist

> anti-American government in Mexico, who started

> posturing and siding with the 'wrong' countries.

> How long would it take for the US to step in. It

> didn't take the West long to step into Kuwait, and

> then subsequently invade a sovereign state with a

> dictator that the West had propped up (Iraq). Of

> course they had oil, rather than the largest

> nuclear arsenal in the world.


Nicaragua :)


Ronald Reagan, Sandanistas, Contras, Ollie North.

Chick Wrote:

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I still haven't seen any evidence to suggest STW are pro Russian, quite the opposite.


Don't forget we were happy to bomb Syria.



A look at STW's website this morning and it has 4 'leading articles', 2 of which are pointing the finger at NATO being the cause for the war in Ukraine.


Just as important and telling is what someone doesn't say as well as what they say.


And that was Tatchell's point, STW are quick to denounce/blame the West/NATO but say very little or nothing when it comes to Russia, preferring instead to chime out hackneyed excuses about it being NATO's fault/Western imperialism etc...

"A look at STW's website this morning and it has 4 'leading articles', 2 of which are pointing the finger at NATO being the cause for the war in Ukraine."


Again so what?


That doesn't mean STW is pro Putin or pro Russia, just against all war's in what ever country and for what ever reason.

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News cycle obviously being dominated by Queen/King events, but what's going on in Ukraine in recent days is incredible, Ukraine taking back control of territory from the Russkis at an unprecedented rate. This video is already out of date...

 

Absolutely

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