Monkey Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Amazed to see such queues outside a bakery. Is the bread amazing then? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Bird Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) That’ll be the investors, as the bakery was entirely crowdfunded. — they were promised “freebies” at the opening. Cafes/Bakeries like this don’t last. They’ll end up just like all of the rest that have graced us for all 5 seconds. My advice, stop slapping paint & a name on vacant buildings. Do your research & learn why the previous establishment did not last. Edited April 14, 2023 by ED Bird Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken78 Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 any photos of the goods ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 The queue last Saturday, when Eric's opened, were locals and people who had travelled from all over London to buy products created by Helen (the former head Baker at Fluer) The "freebies" that were provided as the crowdfunding were delivered in advance of the opening so from what I saw it was all paying customers. This morning there was again a queue of eager punters and long may those queues last. If you did your research EdBird, you would know who is behind Eric's, what they are offering and possibly why they will do better then the last owner. There's nothing like freshly baked on premise goods to draw people in. Ken, if you go to Eric's Instagram site or their website and also look up HelenFluer on Instagram you will be able to see what's on offer for yourself, or better still pop in and browse. I'm hoping, personally, it will do well and their croissants and wild garlic and cheese swirls are bloody delicious. 3 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620210 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwb Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 Good for them, will have to check it out. Can't imagine they're creating extra demand for bread though?, presumably the customers come from the other bakeries in the area. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
alice Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 What a negative bunch 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 4 minutes ago, alice said: What a negative bunch Couldn't agree more but hey ho this is the EDF where some people aren't happy unless they can moan from their armchairs about a new exciting business without actually visiting it first. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callie Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 They only seem to be open Fridays & maybe Saturday when there is a long line first thing then they are closed🤔 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffler Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 I’d love to support a new business but I will not stand in a long queue unless it’s moving briskly. They should have separate lines for people who want to simply buy bread and pastries to take out and those who want hot drinks etc. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Callie, Eric's opens Friday at 8, Saturday at 9 and closes when they have sold out. They are increasing production to match the amazing demand they are experiencing, but still proving so popular that they sell out quickly due to so many people visiting. After going again today I can see why it is popular. Ruffler, if you have been In you will know that they are selling baked goods and filter coffee / tea (quick to make) so the concept of people slowing the queue down by buying hot drinks only that take a while to make (cappuccino for example) is an incorrect assumption. The staff behind the counter are quick and efficient but just like william rose, a queue for quality goods moves as quickly as it can. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard tudor Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Would there be a queue at William rose if there was another butchers? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken78 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 57 minutes ago, richard tudor said: Would there be a queue at William rose if there was another butchers? I don't think so especially at the price's Rose charge Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 On 14/04/2023 at 11:22, mrwb said: Good for them, will have to check it out. Can't imagine they're creating extra demand for bread though?, presumably the customers come from the other bakeries in the area. Most of the bread (and meat for that matter) market is held by supermarkets and convenience stores. @Ken78: if butchery is such a ripoff, you should open one up. (That is, after you've opened your cafe, as you've said before that's a high profit margin industry with easy money in it). 3 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken78 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Dogkennelhillbilly said: Most of the bread (and meat for that matter) market is held by supermarkets and convenience stores. @Ken78: if butchery is such a ripoff, you should open one up. (That is, after you've opened your cafe, as you've said before that's a high profit margin industry with easy money in it). what makes you think i not already done that ?? talk about judging people that you don't know, just some members are becoming a joke what do you think Dogkennelhillbilly Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogkennelhillbilly Posted April 20, 2023 Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 16/04/2023 at 08:53, ken78 said: what makes you think i not already done that ?? Mostly the amount of old toot you talk! 🤣 But, to be fair, okay, please do share more about your experience of opening and running profitable butchers and cafes. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1620985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wordsworth Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 I'd just like to try her buns. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken78 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 17 hours ago, Dogkennelhillbilly said: Mostly the amount of old toot you talk! 🤣 But, to be fair, okay, please do share more about your experience of opening and running profitable butchers and cafes. ok most REHCTUBS work on 55-75 % profit NOW YOU KNOW if you can work it out... cafes work on 80-95% why do you think that you have a lot of food out lets in dulwich and pay top rent its not rocket science ...just think about it Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin68 Posted April 21, 2023 Share Posted April 21, 2023 11 minutes ago, ken78 said: ok most REHCTUBS work on 55-75 % profit NOW YOU KNOW if you can work it out... cafes work on 80-95% why do you think that you have a lot of food out lets in dulwich and pay top rent its not rocket science ...just think about it This is almost certainly gross profit (basically profit as a %age of food/ beverage costs). It's the owners mark-up over the bought-in food and beverage costs. It ignores overheads (rent, rates and other taxes, insurance, capital costs of paying for equipment, heat, light and power etc. etc.) It may also ignore staff costs, though these may be treated as variable costs. For most competitive businesses (i.e. not monopolies) net profit will be around 7-15% - much less and the business will go bust, much more (over any reasonable time period) and the business will be competed out of the market. Many larger companies quote EBITDA (Earnings before Interest, Tax, Depreciation and Amortization) but I doubt cafes bother. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken78 Posted April 22, 2023 Share Posted April 22, 2023 and how any shops DON'T TAKE DEBIT CARDS and buy stock with cash and pay workers half on the books and the rest in hand this mucks up every thing what you said...........go to most chip shops or barbers its all cash and some butchers give you a so called discount if you pay cash.... the trick is always add 10% on their bill as you add it up THEN give a 10% discount the tricks of the trade is amazing Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 11 hours ago, ken78 said: the trick is always add 10% on their bill as you add it up THEN give a 10% discount the tricks of the trade is amazing Remind me not to go to any business you run Ken Do you also weigh down the scales with your fingers so the customer thinks they are getting more meat (weight) then they are, or substitute the type of meat you sold (Neigh I hear you cry) You sound one dodgy geezer mate 1 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken78 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Spartacus said: Remind me not to go to any business you run Ken Do you also weigh down the scales with your fingers so the customer thinks they are getting more meat (weight) then they are, or substitute the type of meat you sold (Neigh I hear you cry) You sound one dodgy geezer mate You got it ..ever been to a chip shop and some times you get a load of chips then some time not to many and the fish is different sizes . The best one is a cafe a large tea ans a normal tea bigger cups but hold the same amount .. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froglander Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 There are queues outside Toad Bakery in Camberwell too. I’m looking forward to trying Eric’s. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 7 hours ago, Spartacus said: You sound one dodgy geezer mate This should not be news to anyone Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 hours ago, Sephiroth said: This should not be news to anyone 😅 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariagatty Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 It's great to see a new business opening and people engaging, hats off to any new business starting out in this financial climate. I wish Eric's the best ! 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/324981-queues-at-eric%E2%80%99s-bakery/#findComment-1621336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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