CPZ permit renewal overcharging

[gm99]

Hi All,

Just a quick one: if you have a parking permit, be aware when renewing that Southwark's parking account system is incorrectly identifying some ULEZ-compliant vehicles as non-compliant - the fees now differ between the two. I have a ULEZ compliant car and the online system would only give me the option to pay £300 for an annual permit for a non-compliant car, instead of £225. All sorted by doing the renewal by phone.

I'm sure the hike in fees has been well discussed elsewhere. To my mind it goes against the principle that "[Southwark needs] to charge for parking permits to cover the operational costs of the zone", which was as described in the consultation of the zone I live in. The first I knew of the increase was when I went to renew.

GM

[Abe_froeman]

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it goes against the principle .... which was as described in the consultation

 

Who could possibly have guessed that might happen.

[malumbu]

Generally local authorities will use the same databases, shared by or purchased from DVLA, possibly with additional fields.  The DVLA one, containing tens of millions of vehicles isn't fool proof, ie there will be the odd error.  ULEZ is based on emissions, and there are some older petrol cars that in theory will be caught as they are not modern enough, but were designed to meet future standards.

What is special/different about your vehicle gm99 - out of interest.  Is it Euro 3 petrol (ULEZ non-compliant) mascarading at a Euro 4 (compliant).

 

 

 

[Charles Martel]

9 hours ago, gm99 said:

I'm sure the hike in fees has been well discussed elsewhere. To my mind it goes against the principle that "[Southwark needs] to charge for parking permits to cover the operational costs of the zone", which was as described in the consultation of the zone I live in.

Unfortunately there is a small, but well organised and vociferous minority who want councils to use resident parking fees as a deterrent to car ownership.   One such group argue that the current cost of a parking permit is below what they consider to be the  market rate.  For Southwark they suggest the fee be raised to  £1333.

https://www.swlondoner.co.uk/news/26052023-central-london-councils-missing-out-on-millions-in-parking-revenue

Southwark council's stated policy is to "force a reduction in vehicles", by which they mean our family cars, not through traffic.  So expect more rises and expansion of CPZs in the future,

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12027415/Labour-council-wages-war-drivers-increasing-cost-permits-368.html

 

[gm99]

8 hours ago, malumbu said:

What is special/different about your vehicle gm99 - out of interest.  Is it Euro 3 petrol (ULEZ non-compliant) mascarading at a Euro 4 (compliant) 

Nothing - it's a Euro 6 diesel and has no issues with the actual ULEZ (ie we're not being charged in error by TFL). A neighbour with a brand new petrol car has had the same overcharging problem and is now trying to get a refund (he was unaware of the error until I alerted him to it). 

Edited June 7, 2023 by gm99