Southwark council survey on bins on the street

[trinidad]

Do you live on any of these roads below:

 

 AMBERGATE STREET

·        BASSANO STREET

·        BROOK DRIVE

·        BRUNSWICK PARK

·        BUSHEY HILL ROAD

·        CAMBERWELL CHURCH STREET

·        CHAPTER ROAD

·        COPLESTON ROAD

·        CRAMPTON STREET

·        DE LAUNE STREET

·        ELFINDALE ROAD

·        ELMINGTON ROAD

·        ETHNARD ROAD

·        GROVE LANE

·        KESTON ROAD

·        KIMBERLEY AVENUE

·        LINNELL ROAD

·        LORDSHIP LANE

·        MARMORA ROAD

·        MELBOURNE GROVE

·        MUSCHAMP ROAD

·        SUTHERLAND SQUARE

·        VESTRY ROAD

·        VICARAGE GROVE

·        WOODWARDE ROAD

The council is currently conducting a online survey regarding bins on the pavement. Please complete the following survey: www.southwark.gov.uk/bins-on-street (you must live on one of those roads above). 

 

It only takes five minutes, and the deadline is 20th October 2024

 

or you can email your comments on pavements to:  [email protected]

 

 

 

 

Ambergate StreetBassano StreetBrook DriveBrunswick ParkBushey Hill RoadCamberwell Church StreetChapter RoadCopleston RoadCrampton StreetDe Laune StreetElfindale RoadElmington RoadEthnard RoadGrove LaneKeston RoadKimberley AvenueLinnell RoadLordship LaneMarmora RoadMelbourne GroveMuschamp RoadSutherland SquareVestry RoadVicarage GroveWoodwarde RoadOther

Property name/number

(optional)

This information will not be shared

Edited October 8, 2024 by trinidad

[Sue]

4 hours ago, trinidad said:

Do you live on any of these roads below:

 

 AMBERGATE STREET

·        BASSANO STREET

·        BROOK DRIVE

·        BRUNSWICK PARK

·        BUSHEY HILL ROAD

·        CAMBERWELL CHURCH STREET

·        CHAPTER ROAD

·        COPLESTON ROAD

·        CRAMPTON STREET

·        DE LAUNE STREET

·        ELFINDALE ROAD

·        ELMINGTON ROAD

·        ETHNARD ROAD

·        GROVE LANE

·        KESTON ROAD

·        KIMBERLEY AVENUE

·        LINNELL ROAD

·        LORDSHIP LANE

·        MARMORA ROAD

·        MELBOURNE GROVE

·        MUSCHAMP ROAD

·        SUTHERLAND SQUARE

·        VESTRY ROAD

·        VICARAGE GROVE

·        WOODWARDE ROAD

The council is currently conducting a online survey regarding bins on the pavement. Please complete the following survey: www.southwark.gov.uk/bins-on-street (you must live on one of those roads above). 

 

It only takes five minutes, and the deadline is 20th October 2024

 

or you can email your comments on pavements to:  [email protected]

 

 

 

 

Ambergate StreetBassano StreetBrook DriveBrunswick ParkBushey Hill RoadCamberwell Church StreetChapter RoadCopleston RoadCrampton StreetDe Laune StreetElfindale RoadElmington RoadEthnard RoadGrove LaneKeston RoadKimberley AvenueLinnell RoadLordship LaneMarmora RoadMelbourne GroveMuschamp RoadSutherland SquareVestry RoadVicarage GroveWoodwarde RoadOther

Property name/number

(optional)

This information will not be shared

Can you post a clickable link?

Not that I live on one of those streets!

I think you probably need to edit your post to  put https://  before the website address you've given

[Happyme5]

Well if the survey concerns lazy residents and dirty bins.  I get it as some streets like vicarage grove SE5 are really dirty and very unpleasant to walk along 

[KalamityKel]

http://www.southwark.gov.uk/bins-on-street

For context, if you don't want to click to the site:

"Streets for People - Bins on streets exploratory survey

As part of the borough-wide Streets for People engagement earlier this year, many people identified domestic waste bins on the pavement as a major issue for pedestrians, especially people in wheelchairs or with pushchairs. In the worst cases, they can make streets impossible to navigate.

We are now exploring this in more detail, to better understand the specific issues and what the solutions might be. We are visiting residents on the streets below, which were identified as hotspots in the Streets for People survey. If you live on one of these streets, please share your thoughts here.

·        AMBERGATE STREET

·        BASSANO STREET

·        BROOK DRIVE

·        BRUNSWICK PARK

·        BUSHEY HILL ROAD

·        CAMBERWELL CHURCH STREET

·        CHAPTER ROAD

·        COPLESTON ROAD

·        CRAMPTON STREET

·        DE LAUNE STREET

·        ELFINDALE ROAD

·        ELMINGTON ROAD

·        ETHNARD ROAD

·        GROVE LANE

·        KESTON ROAD

·        KIMBERLEY AVENUE

·        LINNELL ROAD

·        LORDSHIP LANE

·        MARMORA ROAD

·        MELBOURNE GROVE

·        MUSCHAMP ROAD

·        SUTHERLAND SQUARE

·        VESTRY ROAD

·        VICARAGE GROVE

·        WOODWARDE ROAD"

[Spartacus]

Shouldn't this survey be open for all streets so that persistant bin laden streets can be targeted ? 

[Rockets]

I think the council are targeting those with particular issues.

[KalamityKel]

The Qs aren't really anything to shout about;

• Name of street
• Number
• Type of property
• Bin collection day
• How long are your bins left on the street?
• Why?
• Have you experienced any inconvenience from bins on the pavement in your area?
• Type of bin causing the inconvenience
• How has this inconvenienced you?
• A selection of agree statements relating to resident V commercial bins

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[rollflick]

This is another poorly designed Southwark survey, in this instance as:

1) The streets with the biggest issues are those where there's a difference in height between the front door and pavement, e.g. Malfort Road and ED end / west side of Bellenden Road (see attached image) and likewise Lyndhurst Way. That's because there's less likely to be level space in front gardens and they also have tiny pavements. But these streets are not listed in the survey and there's no "other" option to comment about them.

2) You're only supposed to respond for your own street - but many of us face regular difficulties using streets in the local area and are thereby shut out from the survey, allowing officials to keep ignoring legal duties on accessibility.

Does anyone else think the issue has become worse in recent years as the refuse collection service seem to leave bins in a much more haphazard way (Veolia trying to maximise profit?), as well as some council communications telling people they now have to leave bins outside front gardens on the pavement. Whereas in the past refusepeople (or whatever binmen are called these days?!) would be prepared to take the extra second to take and put back bins from just inside front gardens. If you're away, the new approach of chucking bins down also highlights your home to burglars.

Another problem is the amount of overgrowing plants from private properties. In other parts of London you get a letter from the council telling you to cut plants back, here staff and councillors seem too busy promoting Streets for People publicity to bother. The last year's wet weather has made the plant problem the worst I can remember. As a result the combination of some of London's narrowest pavements on top of poor management means Southwark has some of London's worst conditions for walking.

 

[Nigello]

Some bins remain on pavements because of a lack of space, that’s true, but plenty of others are there because householders CBA to put them in front gardens where there’s plenty of space. People see their neighbours not putting them back and think “ok, I’ll do likewise” - antisocial behaviour is contagious. 😷 

[rollflick]

Yes there is certainly inconsiderate behaviour but the problem is made worse in the ED area due to the inadequate pavement width. See attached map, source is p13 in https://content.tfl.gov.uk/lsp-app-six-b-strategic-neighbourhoods-analysis-v1.pdf. Isn't it striking how much narrower pavements are across Southwark than neighbouring Lambeth for instance?

That's why it was wrong for Southwark to limit the survey to just a few streets and why radical solutions to how rubbish & recycling are stored are needed. And yes maybe that includes some sort of ban on leaving bins out on narrow pavements. Plus perhaps underground communal bins like on the continent or maybe an interim solution of large bins replacing a car parking space or two.

 

 

[Rockets]

On 17/10/2024 at 15:47, rollflick said:

Does anyone else think the issue has become worse in recent years as the refuse collection service seem to leave bins in a much more haphazard way (Veolia trying to maximise profit?)

One of the responses asks whether bins are left in dangerous positions by the refuse collection teams so I suspect Veolia is going to get a ticking off!

[CPR Dave]

Pretty sure Rollflick has it right.

 

Many of these streets have a CPZ already. This council and this cabinet member have form for reclaiming the streets from evil car owners. 

I suspect this is another thinly veiled land grab and the result will be less car parking and more new bin storage zones in what used to be the highway.

[froggy]

On 17/10/2024 at 20:17, Nigello said:

Some bins remain on pavements because of a lack of space, that’s true, but plenty of others are there because householders CBA to put them in front gardens where there’s plenty of space. People see their neighbours not putting them back and think “ok, I’ll do likewise” - antisocial behaviour is contagious. 😷 

Too right.  Hillcourt Road a prime example, sadly!