The newly landscaped Dulwich Square

[Earl Aelfheah]

You have provided no evidence of your claim that the filter on Calton avenue increased crime, road danger, or pollution. It’s not true. 

Like everyone I have concerns about crime. Unlike you, however, I'm not trying to stoke fears, or spread clearly false information, to service an obsessive grievance about a 5 year old road layout change. It's dishonest and it's shameful.

Edited 11 hours ago by Earl Aelfheah

[Rockets]

@Earl Aelfheah I would suggest it appears you only seem to have concerns about crime if your beloved LTNs are not involved......if they are involved in any discussion you will then go out of your way to argue with anyone who doesn't subscribe to the "everything is awesome" narrative you project. ANd you have the gall to accuse me of being dishonest and shameful.

You and I often, and probably always will, disagree but the evidence presented is more than compelling and with local elections approaching I suspect you'll have a hard time trying to drown out the noise about crime in Dulwich Village and the causes therein. 

It's a local discussion point amongst local residents whether you like it or not - and no-one has weaponised it - it's the local reality and the debate is stimulated by worried local residents. I would expect weaponisation in the lead-up to the local elections but that is to be expected - that is, after all, politics and every party in opposition will zero in on it as the data is there for all to see.

 

[DulvilleRes]

41 minutes ago, Rockets said:

It's a local discussion point amongst local residents whether you like it or not - and no-one has weaponised it - it's the local reality and the debate is stimulated by worried local residents. I would expect weaponisation in the lead-up to the local elections but that is to be expected - that is, after all, politics and every party in opposition will zero in on it as the data is there for all to see

Only your 'interpretation' of the data has been comprehensively de bunked. What does that say about any party that tries to run with this fake narrative that there is some correlation between crime and the LTNs? Also, what does it say about anybody who is desperately trying to establish it as a talking point in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary? 

[Rockets]

1 hour ago, DulvilleRes said:

Only your 'interpretation' of the data has been comprehensively de bunked.

The data is the data - not sure any of the data has been "comprehensively debunked" at all. It is there for all to see. Only the usual deniers are trying to argue against it but they'll always come up with some sort of argument/excuse!

 

1 hour ago, DulvilleRes said:

What does that say about any party that tries to run with this fake narrative that there is some correlation between crime and the LTNs?

I didn't say political parties will try to link crime to LTNs but they're certainly likely to run on the increasing crime rate in Dulwich Village - the data speaks volumes and any politcal party that doesn't go after Labour on that would be foolish - it wouldn't surprise me if one party didn't try to link it to LTNs if they think there is a case.

The Lib Dems are on it already (in terms of the growing crime problem in the Village) and it is one of their key pledges in election leaflets dropping through Dulwich Village doors...perhaps someone will try to suggest I am lying about that as well after the PCSO issue some of you took issue with!

[march46]

Given the title of this thread I suggest we get back on topic - perhaps a separate thread could be set up for Dulwich Village crime. Probably one for the lounge rather than ‘roads and transport’.