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23 minutes ago, tedfudge said:

Looks like Iran have attacked us bases in middle east aswell as a British base 

It was inevitable, but I think it'll blow over. Iran co-ordinated the attack with the Qataris, so as not to offend their mates, so Qatar was prepared. I hope it's just symbolic bluster and I think they're only targeting US bases. 

Even if they target a UK base, I doubt it'll drag us into a conventional war with them.

Edited by HeadNun

If the Qatari's decide to retaliate then it's all going off...but I suspect the Iranians are hoping for this - one inaccurate missile and the Qatari's may have to. I think the Iranian leadership is working on fast-tracking their own demise and the Americans and Israeli's planning for regime change, maybe with the many political prisoners the Israelis tried to free from the Elvin prison today.

What a mess but clearly Iran was becoming a big threat to not only Israel but many of the other Gulf States and was clearly doing scary stuff with nuclear weapons that required action.

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The NYT ( that right wing alarmist rag) has reported that Iran told Qatar so they could prepare. Iran and Q are on good terms so Q won’t retaliate, esp as Iran is only targeting US bases, which everyone knew to expect.

 

 

If anything, it draws Qatar into the dialogue and Q will privately be urging Iran to back down. 

General view is it is tokenistic from Iran, not looking to harm life but show that they are retaliating.

Same thing happened after the earlier Israeli attack back in the distant part.

There will be debate, even at the top of the Iranian authorities.  Israel even without the US hold the cards.  Although are in this position due to decades of US support.

As per my post on the other thread much of the reason the world is in this position is botched US post second world war middle East policy.  Supporting both sides in the Iran/Iraq war being particularly striking

Trump mark 1 emboldened the right wing in Israel, perhaps pushed Hammas to more extreme action, and led to the Iranians going rogue on nukes.  I think that the latter was to put them in a stronger position in opening up grade, a country not able to sell vast quantities of oil ,(and gas?)

But how does the world move on from this mess?

By all means give other views to my simplistic ones 

 

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Also, Mal, I’d not be surprised if Biibi reminded Trump that his pulling out of the 2018 deal is the reason Iran has got to where it  has with its enrichment programme, and strong/-armed him into ‘finishing off’ the sites, (which he most likely hasn’t; they’ve moved their uranium for sure). 

 

Potentially, a ceasefire has been agreed, which pushes the doomsday clock hands back a tad if its true 

BBC News - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cn7ze4vmk2pt

Trump says Israel and Iran have agreed to 'complete and total' ceasefire' - live updates - BBC News

 

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