Spartacus Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 BBC News - NHS plans to DNA test all babies to assess disease risk https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1ljg7v0vmpo I'm in two minds about this , on one hand it may help eliminate life changing illnesses as a child grows up, providing the gene therapy is available and free to all. On the other hand, the unexpected consequences could be that the data is sold / shared or lost and if insurance companies get it they could increase premiums or refuse cover due to the higher risk. Equally if an employer gets it, could they discriminate based on likelihood of needing more time off? If the data is anonymous and secure, possibly not a problem but even the NHS was hacked recently. Years ago I watched Gattaca , where a similar system resulted in upper class "perfect" citizens and the underclass of the "Imperfect" and whilst it was fiction, this could be how it starts 🤔 https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0119177/ 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/363396-nhs-plan-to-dna-test-all-babies-at-birth/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moovart Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Worth reading The Age of Diagnosis by Dr Suzanne o Sullivan which has a chapter discussing pros and cons of genetic diagnosis. Sometimes it's better not to know. 1 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/363396-nhs-plan-to-dna-test-all-babies-at-birth/#findComment-1711255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 Still, I suppose another advantage is everyone's DNA will be on file so the police can solve more crimes 🤔 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/363396-nhs-plan-to-dna-test-all-babies-at-birth/#findComment-1711269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpsaucey Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Insidious - even more deeply personal info saved, shared etc. . Finding it quite sinister myself. NHS has already got involved with dodgy Palantir. HP Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/363396-nhs-plan-to-dna-test-all-babies-at-birth/#findComment-1711284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 (edited) Like assisted dying lets have a proper debate and process in both houses. Edited June 21 by malumbu 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/363396-nhs-plan-to-dna-test-all-babies-at-birth/#findComment-1711302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 (edited) A debate in both house and the public right to opt out would be a good solution Edited June 22 by Spartacus Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/363396-nhs-plan-to-dna-test-all-babies-at-birth/#findComment-1711318 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl Aelfheah Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) It's an interesting one. My instinct is that it's probably a good idea in principle, but in practice, the devil is all in the detail. Need to be really rigorous protocols in place to make sure that it's properly secure, anonymised, cannot be passed on to any third parties etc. Edited June 23 by Earl Aelfheah 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/363396-nhs-plan-to-dna-test-all-babies-at-birth/#findComment-1711479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moovart Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 hours ago, Earl Aelfheah said: It's an interesting one. My instinct is that it's probably a good idea in principle, but in practice, the devil is all in the detail. Need to be really rigorous protocols in place to make sure that it's properly secure, anonymised, cannot be passed on to any third parties etc. I suspect that will be impossible and if the data is held in an NHS system, I think it will definitely be impossible. I don't believe it would be the likes of Apple or Meta in terms of IT security. If I were having a baby now I think I would opt out. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/363396-nhs-plan-to-dna-test-all-babies-at-birth/#findComment-1711501 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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