Interesting stats on cycle red light jumpers

[Shaggy]

I think there are worse problems in the world and, while I do see cyclists jumping reds, I often see vans close-passing cyclists and red-faced tubsters getting their plus-sized knickers  in a twist for no reason.

 

However, I do worry for some Lime bike users.  I’ve been cycling in London for thirty years and know how to do it and stay safe. And sometimes that involves jumping lights.  But I worry for the casual Lime bike users who are a danger to themselves.

 

[HeadNun]

Shaggy's continued fat-shaming of people who don't cycle (now removed from his / her previous post) reflects quite well the smug superiority of so many cyclists. Occasionally setting off before a light turns green at some junctions not designed for bikes, I can forgive if it's for safety. But there's no excuse for not stopping at a pedestrian crossing and I don't exaggerate when I say that the majority of times I see any type of cyclist - Lime or otherwise - approaching a crossing, they just plough through. I see it every. Single. Day. On foot and on my bike. It's pure arrogance and shows that they consider their journey and progress to be more important than anyone else's. 

So maybe, Shaggy, the person you previously mentioned (I see you removed all your comments about fat people) who got irate even though you did stop, has just had their fill of cyclists in general. And I say all this as a cyclist.

 

[Earl Aelfheah]

On 04/07/2025 at 18:42, exdulwicher said:

A lot of US states have something similar for cyclists called the Idaho Stop - Idaho as the state that introduced it. Basically says that cyclists can treat a red light as a STOP sign and a STOP sign as a Give Way. So if you get to a red light, stop, can see that the way for a bike is clear and it's safe for everyone, you can make the turn.

It;s a tacit admission that bikes are not cars and sometimes measures designed for cars are not entirely necessary for bikes.

On the other hand, if you blow through a red light, mowing down pedestrians every which way, you can expect to be severely punished for it, there are traffic cops everywhere in the US. As a result, the road laws are generally complied with.

This is so eminently sensible. You can already hear the Daily Mail headlines if this were ever floated in the UK however.

Edited Thursday at 13:41 by Earl Aelfheah

[Rockets]

Looks like change is starting slowly..the government seems to be switching on to some of the problems.

BBC News - Pause on new 'floating' bus stops welcomed by campaigners - BBC News

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm20x7lk83vo