Application for Londis Off-Licence next to Charter East Entrance

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There is an application for a Londis store to operate as an off-licence, selling alcohol, vapes, cigarettes and fast food takeaway next to the Charter East entrance. The proposed operating hours are daily until 1:00 AM.

 

For more details on the application, please visit:

 

https://app.southwark.gov.uk/premises/applied/886415

 

Views to be shared with Southwark Council by July 22nd via email at:

[email protected]

[Angelina]

presumably the only thing they would sell to the school children is fast food

 

[KalamityKel]

Bog standard application 🤷‍♀️

[Penguin68]

9 minutes ago, Angelina said:

presumably the only thing they would sell to the school children is fast food

The drink will be for the teachers, in my experience 

[Sally Eva]

controls on fast food sales near secondary schools

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/rules-fast-food-takeaways-london-schools-b1125255.html

 

[KalamityKel]

Londis isnt a take away or fast food outlet. Its simply another convenience store.

[ianr]

If you look at the application linked to in the OP, you'll see it's a Licensing Act 2003 one, in this case for the purposes of sale by retail of alcohol and for the provision of late night refreshment: "TAKEAWAY COFFEE/ HOT SNACKS 2300-0100".

IF the shop counts as a Hot Food Takeaway, then section P48 of the Southwark Plan

https://www.southwark.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2024-09/Southwark Plan 2022 reduced 1.pdf ,

which appears to be the latest one linked to on Southwark's site, will I presume be applied in any  planning application (Is there one?). It says:

"New hot food takeaways will only be permitted where: .....

3. The proposed location is further than 400 metres from any existing or proposed primary or secondary school’s boundary; ....."

It incorporates  policy laid down in the National Planning Policy Framework, and thence the London Plan. 

Over the years KFC, and others, have taken a  number of appeals against local planning authority decisions on Takeaways to the Planning Inspectorate.  Some have been allowed.  KFCs 'commentary on evidence contained in London Plan Topic Paper: Hot Food Takeaways', https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/nlp_ad_91.pdf may be of interest to some. I'm guessing it's referring to https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/london_plan_topic_paper_on_hot_food_takeaways.pdf of 2018, but haven't yet checked.

 

Edited Friday at 18:33 by ianr

[Robert Williams]

I thought the most they sell in terms of hot food at londis is like pastries and sausage rolls and for hot drinks its like costa coffee but its always a convenience store. Doesn’t look too bad in my opinion considering that shop has been closed down ever since i moved here

Edited yesterday at 02:13 by Robert Williams

[ed_pete]

Is that the site that was Big Bellys at one time ?  I suspect that they have an eye on the flats that will be going up in the builders yard space as this will be right at the entrance.

[pikeyed]

1 hour ago, ed_pete said:

Is that the site that was Big Bellys at one time ?  I suspect that they have an eye on the flats that will be going up in the builders yard space as this will be right at the entrance.

That site is currently being set up as a physio. A google search suggests units 1-2 is where Drop wine bar currently is.

Edited yesterday at 12:48 by pikeyed
Added info

[alice]

Well, if Big bellies got permission that I can’t see why Londis won’t

[CPR Dave]

It says Units 1 and 2, 4 Melbourne Grove.

That seems to be the site of Big Bellies and the Physio, recently for sale...

https://www.loopnet.co.uk/Listing/4-Melbourne-Grove-London/32981139/

[Cameron Chiu]

I dont see a problem with this if there is a problem. Its quite further out from the charter school and its right next to where they are going to make the entrance for those student flats. If anything its better for the residents since the Mark and Son closes at 7. I’d imagine the teachers won’t let the students go into the shop after school hours anyways