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Traditional deli's began to suffer and struggle when the supermarkets opened instore deli counters and could purchase and supply goods at lower prices as they bought in bulk that deli's could not ultimately deal with and slowly but surely they began to close. 

But now the supermarkets have all but closed their deli counters perhaps this opens the opportunity for those who fancy a punt and have the experience to open new deli's, and likewise bakeries to open that produce bread and not the reheated frozen "bread" sold by the supermarkets which they purport to be instore baked. They or at least Sainsbury's and I guess this applies to the other three multi national supermarkets no longer scratch bake. It would be so good to se traditional delis and bakeries re-open.   

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Yes.

I imagine the retail environment is complex and with every change there are winners and losers.

The end of retail price maintenance meant the big supermarket chains could undercut small grocers, and specialist shops, the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker 

Allowing supermarkets to open longer meant the corner shop lost some of its advantages.

Changing consumer demographics, the move to the big shop by car (and now on line) rather than walking or getting the bus into town several times a week, and/or local shops, many of which have long since gone, put more pressure on small retailers.

But against all this we have niche outlets, farmers markets and the like doing well.

Comparing Peckham and East Dulwich is interesting, one has numerous fresh food shops offering good value, the other has products generally costing much more, with their own USPs.

Shops come and go, trends come and go, and there is always a risk that demand disappears, or there is more competition.

Good discussions thanks.  To open it up rather than dwell on the retail environment, how do cheese stalls at the Horniman and Herne Hill farmers market fare?  Assuming they are still there - haven't shopped at Horniman since it moved from Saturday and recent visits to Herne Hill have been to buy lunch when going to Brockwell Park.

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