Speeding ticket - near Piemont Green

[Rockets]

Do you consider 30mph to be the definition of a speeding car? As I was saying....ideological claptrap. 

The blanket rollout of 20mph by councils like Southwark was driven by an anti-car ideology and was not at all pragmatic. I think some in the active travel lobby would refer to it as a "nudge technique"...

 

[malumbu]

Your blinkered thinking is shocking.  I cycle maybe 15 hours many weeks in London.  20 mph makes it so much more welcoming.  And much safer for pedestrians too.  I really can't get my head around your position on everything brought in to make our streets safer and encourage people to drive less and use active travel.  Is this really because of the LTN?

[Rockets]

Because often those measures are not brought in pragmatically. The A205 being 20mph is one of those, the Westway elevated section being 30mph is another. I very often cycle to West London and I would never want to cycle along the A4 no matter what speed it was - that's me being pragmatic. I often see people trying to and I often think that is being driven by ideology or stupidity - or a dangerous combination of both! I have been doing that journey far longer than the 20mph blanket measures were brought in and the route I chose to go those measures have made zero difference because the route I use is wonderfully quiet and always has been. 

Do you really think the A205 should be 20mph? It's one of London's most important arterial routes and is the very definition of a 30mph road in the Highway Code. 

Surely you can put your ideology aside and use your traffic management expertise to acknowledge that?

Edited 5 hours ago by Rockets

[Sue]

11 hours ago, Rockets said:

Do you consider 30mph to be the definition of a speeding car? As I was saying....ideological claptrap. 

The blanket rollout of 20mph by councils like Southwark was driven by an anti-car ideology and was not at all pragmatic. I think some in the active travel lobby would refer to it as a "nudge technique"...

 

It would help if you quoted my  post you are replying to. How convenient that it was at the end of a page.

30mph is significantly faster than 20mph - 50% faster -  otherwise there wouldn't be much point in having reduced  the speed limit, for the reasons given.

I notice you completely ignore the rest of my post. 

I will copy and paste it here to jog your memory.

"Maybe people might be more inclined to cycle and walk if they are less at risk from speeding cars whilst doing so, and their journey is generally more pleasant?

How do you define a) ideological and b) claptrap in this context?

And what is your opinion on the other two reasons, ie reducing collisions and helping to improve air quality?"

Edited 3 hours ago by Sue
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