Has Ed Davey lost the plot?

[Cancerian]

After his disastrous speech today in Bournemouth is Ed Davey starting to lose the plot?  Genuinely wondering why anyone would vote for the Lib Dem’s?

[malumbu]

Why would as anyone want to vote Reform.  OTT by Davey but why ate you saying it was disastrous?  Just catching up on Newsnight and they are having an adult conversation on this 

Edited September 24, 2025 by malumbu
Reform not refit, must emember to put glasses on

[Cancerian]

Just started a new thread but struggling to read your response Malumbu? 

[Sephiroth]

7 hours ago, Cancerian said:

After his disastrous speech today in Bournemouth is Ed Davey starting to lose the plot?  Genuinely wondering why anyone would vote for the Lib Dem’s?

By what definition was it “disastrous”?

[Cancerian]

On 23/09/2025 at 23:01, malumbu said:

Why would as anyone want to vote Reform.  OTT by Davey but why ate you saying it was disastrous?  Just catching up on Newsnight and they are having an adult conversation on this 

I wasn’t asking if anyone would vote Reform? But as you’ve brought it up. It was a very theatrical speech as usual by Ed Davey. Why he mentioned Nigel Farage’s name 38 times but Keir Starmer’s name just once in his once in a while chance to push his party’s plans for the future I don’t know. There was nothing laid out by this man in the plan for the future and his general election grab for 2029?  

[Sephiroth]

So, there IS a leader of a U.K. party outlining plans for 2029 and beyond?

Do tell  us who and what they are 

[Cancerian]

That was my question about Ed Davey and has he lost the plot? Are you a Lib Dem supporter? What do you think about his speech? 

[Sephiroth]

Never mind my opinion just yet. You started a thread calling it disastrous and him losing the plot - but nothing he said matches those descriptions so I’m asking what do you mean? 

11 hours ago, Cancerian said:

That was my question about Ed Davey and has he lost the plot? Are you a Lib Dem supporter? What do you think about his speech? 

 

Am I a LibDem supporter? Hmm - well I live in a LibDem/Tory marginal seat and definitely voted LibDem  to get the awful Tory (now Reform) minister out. But traditionally I would be more Labour aligned (but I'm not tribal - never joined a party)

Was this Ed Davey speech a good one? well the usual platitudes about growing an economy, cutting energy bills, etc etc - all the usual stuff that doesn't mean much years from an election - just directional aspirations.

But what I DID like was a political leader willing to call out Trump/Farage - something Starmer, sitting on a huge majority, is too timid to do

At no point did I see anything disastrous or someone losing the plot - and from what I've read across teh political spectrum the speech was broadly praised.

 

So again - where do you get disastrous or "losing the plot" from?

Edited September 26, 2025 by Sephiroth

[Pugwash]

Ed has experience of having to care for others (his mother and son) he understands more so than other MPs how NHS and Social Services need funding and to work together. David Cameron had a seriously disabled son but he appeared to lack empathy with others who have family in the same situation. I vaguely remember that when his son died - he thanked the NHS for the care given to the family. Gordon Brown, I believe is another very genuine person - and fully committed to improving lives of families. His daughter died shortly after birth and one of his sons was diagnosed with Cystic Fibrosis.   I far rather trust Ed and Lib Dems than I would Reform or Tories.

I have known a few MPs of different political  persuasions, met with them, been canvassing etc over many years and those who stand out for me are Paddy Ashdown, Susan Kramer, Tessa Jowell, Helen Hayes  .

[malumbu]

Kramer is great, met her a couple of times.  Told her the story of when she ran for Mayor and didn't attend a community event as she didn't want to spoil Ken (Livingstone)'s love in.  Amused me and her no doubt