Sunday 12th October 2025 7pm (Doors 6.30pm) Brockley Brewery Comedy (4mins from Brockley Station) : Canadian Comedy Legend PHIL NICHOL 'Seismically powerful award-winning comic force' (The Scotsman) & more....
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Community payback already exists https://www.gov.uk/community-sentences/community-payback -
By beansprout · Posted
Thanks for that - none of mine have been Mordena - whilst vulnerable cat, think I will just take my chances… Will be having flu though - certainly not by choice - much prefer not to but in vulnerable group.. Avoided them until last year…. Luck of drawer if you are as sick as fog or just sore arm … assume - god knows - that flu jab is same throughout country. -
By beansprout · Posted
Wow, that is what it costs for one prisoner. So they get full board and lodging, 24 hour monitoring in over populated prison, we are led to believe, minimum exercise, assume a tv in each cell provided - in USA it is together with wash hand basin and c toilet - some have showers as well. Clearly this amount of money takes into account overstretched and overworked prison officers, protection for them, counselling which is, in my opinion a bare minimum dealing with prisoners in all settings. Do if Sweden can look outside the box, why can’t we? Or are we just not bothered at all / read statistics some where that reoffending is normal and to be frank, with economy as it is at the moment re employment, cost of living and homelessness..not surprised they reoffend to get back inside - food provided, roof over your head - much better than street living, mixing with wrong crowd, trying to get roof over your head, find a job where 90 % won’t employ you as been inside.. -
@beansprout The Swedes seem to have a useful strategy with regard to offenders which has reduced repeat offending. I agree that prison time for minor offences is a complete waste of time. Even worse is that prisons are "colleges of crime" where inmates learn about how to be do crimes and worst of all, become exposed to drug taking. I wouldn't advocate having chain gangs as in the USA but some strategy for getting them into say manual work under supervision might be useful - especially if it came with a modest wag. This would be significantly cheaper than the £51,100 it costs per year for keeping one in jail.
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