Flu and Covid jabs locally

[Sue]

44 minutes ago, Azalea said:

If you’ve got a cold then put some tissues inside the mask.  What kind of mask(s) do you have, carry, wear?    

Can't remember where I got them, online somewhere recommended by my daughter, but they are cloth and brightly coloured and fit quite tightly around my nose and mouth. I've still got a stock of them.

Tissues inside might help a bit,  but if you have a very runny nose you basically need to keep removing the mask to blow it.

Luckily I have only had to go out once when I've had  a bad cold.

Sorry, probably too much information.

[Azalea]

2 hours ago, Sue said:

Can't remember where I got them, online somewhere recommended by my daughter, but they are cloth and brightly coloured and fit quite tightly around my nose and mouth. I've still got a stock of them.

Tissues inside might help a bit,  but if you have a very runny nose you basically need to keep removing the mask to blow it.

Luckily I have only had to go out once when I've had  a bad cold.

Sorry, probably too much information.

You need ffp3 masks.

[Sue]

7 hours ago, Azalea said:

You need ffp3 masks.

Sorry to be dim, but how would that help if I had a cold?

I am not so vulnerable that I need extra protection from the mask itself.

Just looked. My masks are from rosimask and  have a load of stuff stamped on them including FFP2.

Edited Sunday at 08:38 by Sue

[Sally Eva]

This link says cloth masks don't do much any way. 

https://academic.oup.com/jpubhealth/article/46/1/e84/7337687?login=false

shame because so many are so pretty

[Penguin68]

They are probably better at protecting others from you rather than the reverse, but not brilliant at either. 

[George Orwell]

FFP3 here

https://www.medisave.co.uk/products/3m-aura-9330-ffp3-unvalved-respirator-face-mask-box-of-20?_pos=2&_sid=82ab66359&_ss=r&_gl=1*15nc3an*_up*MQ..*_gs*MQ..

and

https://www.medisave.co.uk/products/ffp3-face-mask-x20?pr_prod_strat=jac&pr_rec_id=8b67b9be8&pr_rec_pid=8201400189211&pr_ref_pid=15314464440694&pr_seq=uniform

Edited Sunday at 13:54 by George Orwell

[Azalea]

6 hours ago, Sue said:

Sorry to be dim, but how would that help if I had a cold?

I am not so vulnerable that I need extra protection from the mask itself.

Just looked. My masks are from rosimask and  have a load of stuff stamped on them including FFP2.

The tissues would absorb secretions from your nose.

[Azalea]

Did you know that registered medical practioners are supposed to report a notifiable disease to the UK HEALTH security Agency UKHSA. This includes COVID-19.  There’s  quite a long list of other diseases they must report too. They include cholera, diphtheria, acute infectious  hepatitis A/B/C, acute meningitis and acute enchephalitis.

[Sue]

11 hours ago, Azalea said:

Did you know that registered medical practioners are supposed to report a notifiable disease to the UK HEALTH security Agency UKHSA. This includes COVID-19.  There’s  quite a long list of other diseases they must report too. They include cholera, diphtheria, acute infectious  hepatitis A/B/C, acute meningitis and acute enchephalitis.

Surely that can't be every case of Covid?

A doctor wouldn't even know about most of them. 

Is it just where it's serious enough for hospitalisation?

What's the point?

[George Orwell]

In today’s The Times

[ianr]

https://airqualitynews.com/health/pm2-5-hitches-a-lift-on-red-blood-cells-to-spread-through-the-body/ looks like a good readable brief summary.  There are others available.

His team have produced an impressive  number of papers over the last few years.   The mention of personal differences in clearing of absorbed particles sounds particularly interesting and I look forward to seeing more research on that topic.

 

Edited Monday at 16:37 by ianr

[Sue]

Returning to the original question, I had my jabs at Tessa Jowell yesterday.

I was early and I was  seen on time, and it was a lovely pharmacist who did them, but the admin beforehand (not by her) was a bit iffy.

I was given forms to fill in but not told what to do with them afterwards, so I  presumed I had to take them into the consulting room, as the rest was supposed to be filled in by a clinician, but no!

After some time had elapsed and I had found a seat (there was no information on where to sit either, so people were sitting in two separate areas, neither of which had many seats) my name was called and  the forms were taken behind the counter.

Be aware if you don't have an appointment - even in the relatively short time I was there, three people turned up without appointments having been sent there by a GP (I presume) or having  previously been  asked by the pharmacy to come  back at a different time, and they were all sent away again because the pharmacy didn't have enough flu vaccine until the following day.

I have no idea if this was due to a misunderstanding on the people's side, their GP's or the pharmacy's, but none of them were very happy, and one lady said she "couldn't keep coming back" 😭 

At least one of them didn't seem to understand what he was being told, possibly due to a language issue.

I felt quite sorry for the pharmacist, who was giving jabs all day on top of her usual workload but still managing to stay cheerful! Though she wasn't the one dealing with the unhappy people!

I have a sore arm from the Covid jab (I chose to have the jabs in different arms), but no other ill effects so far, touch wood. 

[beansprout]

Did you have the same covid jab as you have had over the years?

[Sue]

1 hour ago, beansprout said:

Did you have the same covid jab as you have had over the years?

This year it was Pfizer. Last year was Moderna and I was quite  ill after it for the first time.

I think last year was the only time I have had Moderna, but the illness may have been nothing to do with what kind of jab it was, I don't know.

I have no idea whether everyone gets the same one in any particular year, but I'm sure someone else on here will know! 

[beansprout]

Thanks for that - none  of mine  have been Mordena - whilst vulnerable cat, think I will just take my chances…

Will be having flu though - certainly not by choice - much prefer not to but in vulnerable group.. Avoided them until last year….

Luck of drawer if you are as sick as fog  or just sore arm … assume - god knows - that flu jab is same throughout country. 

 

 

 

[ianr]

There can be different vaccine versions for different age groups. See eg https://www.nhs.uk/vaccinations/flu-vaccine/

Two weeks after having my two from DL at TJHC I have today a text from TJGP to say free flu vaccine is available for me  at the practice, and asking me to book online (where next appointment offered shows as 13 November).

Years ago, when the two practices were still in Melbourne Grove, the GP practice was similarly not aware that I'd already had my flu vaccine at DL.  This time I can see my 9 October Covid one in my NHS online GP Acute Medicines records, and then, at the end of the entries:

"Unknown Date

"Influenza vaccine (surface antigen, inactivated) suspension for injection 0.5ml pre-filled syringes ..."

I'm wondering if this date error is happening to others getting dual vaccinations from the TJ DL, or any other DL branches.  And whether it's turning up in the patient records of any other GP practice.

Edited yesterday at 14:29 by ianr
Link added

[Sue]

27 minutes ago, ianr said:

There can be different vaccine versions for different age groups. See eg https://www.nhs.uk/vaccinations/flu-vaccine/

Two weeks after having my two from DL at TJHC I have today a text from TJGP to say free flu vaccine is available for me  at the practice, and asking me to book online (where next appointment offered shows as 13 November).

Years ago, when the two practices were still in Melbourne Grove, the GP practice was similarly not aware that I'd already had my flu vaccine at DL.  This time I can see my 9 October Covid one in my NHS online GP Acute Medicines records, and then, at the end of the entries:

"Unknown Date

"Influenza vaccine (surface antigen, inactivated) suspension for injection 0.5ml pre-filled syringes ..."

I'm wondering if this date error is happening to others getting dual vaccinations from the TJ DL, or any other DL branches.  

Thanks ianr.

Does everyone get the same Covid vaccine?

Re your other things, I don't think the NHS records  are very joined up in various respects, despite (or because of?) the various NHS and GP apps.

2 hours ago, beansprout said:

Thanks for that - none  of mine  have been Mordena - whilst vulnerable cat, think I will just take my chances…

Will be having flu though - certainly not by choice - much prefer not to but in vulnerable group.. Avoided them until last year….

Luck of drawer if you are as sick as fog  or just sore arm … assume - god knows - that flu jab is same throughout country. 

 

 

 

If you are in the vulnerable group for flu, and also for Covid, is there any reason why you are choosing to have one jab but not the other?

Your choice of course, but as I understand it, both flu and Covid are expected to be very prevalent (can't think of the right word) in the UK this Winter?

[beansprout]

Just not keen to have all these  things  in my body… having said  that, thinking about Covid again as need to come to London to two hospitals for poss overnight stays. 

[jazzer]

My understanding is that the Covid jab is free for all over 75's, the rest of us below that age have to pay privately, last year the cost was £99. 

[Sue]

20 minutes ago, jazzer said:

My understanding is that the Covid jab is free for all over 75's, the rest of us below that age have to pay privately, last year the cost was £99. 

I think it is not just age related, it is if you are in a vulnerable group eg because of a particular medical condition, whatever your age?

[jazzer]

Which means its limited to a small cohort. 

[Sue]

5 hours ago, jazzer said:

Which means its limited to a small cohort. 

Yes, but "the rest" are not ALL under 75s, which is what  you said.

There will be people under 75 who get it free because they fall into a vulnerable group (or are a carer).

Sorry to be pedantic.

[jazzer]

Can I be arsed to argue, quite frankly not any longer.

The Lounge has become a toxic arena and now its not even safe to venture into General ED issues. Yes you can have the last word on this one as well.

It's probably safer and better for one's own mental health to be pretty much in "read only" mode and don't bother to or venture expressing an opinion that's going to be smashed into oblivion.