anatomy_london Posted Wednesday at 15:35 Share Posted Wednesday at 15:35 (edited) We’re working with the Horniman Museum & Gardens on a new campaign and we’d love your thoughts on some messaging ideas. It only takes 5 minutes, and 25 participants will win free family tickets to the Aquarium or an exhibition. We really appreciate your thoughts and support. Fill out the survey: https://4xzzej6m9gv.typeform.com/horniman Edited Wednesday at 16:45 by anatomy_london 1 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Wednesday at 16:23 Share Posted Wednesday at 16:23 You need to make the survey a link, via the link icon at the top when you are writing your post. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatomy_london Posted Wednesday at 16:46 Author Share Posted Wednesday at 16:46 Thanks for your help, Sue! We've updated this now. Hope it works okay. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzer Posted Wednesday at 17:49 Share Posted Wednesday at 17:49 Anyone done the survey, any thoughts on the wording of the descriptors they used? Let me start with Inappropriate. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_browsing Posted Wednesday at 18:19 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:19 So I had to do the survey to understand what the concern was and I still don't know! I thought the campaign phrasings were largely ok, while the descriptors leaned oddly to the negative but left out more meaningful emotions like 'intrigued' maybe. Very interested to know what was inappropriate? 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Wednesday at 18:45 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:45 (edited) Sorry, but I thought this survey was totally bizarre. Does whoever put it together have any experience at all in this field? How did they come to choose the answer options? Wouldn't they have been better having the focus group first, to gather thoughts on what to include in the survey? As noted above, virtually all the possible responses are negative, apart from "happiness", which seems a strange approach to say the least. Edited Wednesday at 18:52 by Sue Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprout Posted Wednesday at 18:58 Share Posted Wednesday at 18:58 1 hour ago, jazzer said: Anyone done the survey, any thoughts on the wording of the descriptors they used? Let me start with Inappropriate. Yea, just completed it.. thought it was well, strange.. not to sure what they were hoping to achieve.. limited to only one answer.. umm Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castleton Posted Wednesday at 19:02 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:02 Yes, fear and disgust were odd Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprout Posted Wednesday at 19:07 Share Posted Wednesday at 19:07 To be honest, thought wording totally odd.. wonder if they know it has been posted or maybe a student testing ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamityKel Posted Wednesday at 20:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 20:29 Out of interest, what exactly is the "campaign" and what is the relationship between anatomy and the Horniman? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprout Posted Wednesday at 21:19 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:19 Sadly, think it might be a scam.. more fool me for filling it out… lol at it, click on name.. joined what 5 hours ago… what has happened to the forum? 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewWave Posted Wednesday at 21:23 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:23 Seems odd to say the least.. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Wednesday at 21:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:29 (edited) https://anatomylondon.com/ Edited Wednesday at 21:31 by Sue Typo Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted Wednesday at 21:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:29 (edited) [superseded] Edited Wednesday at 21:34 by ianr Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Wednesday at 21:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 21:30 10 minutes ago, beansprout said: Sadly, think it might be a scam.. more fool me for filling it out… lol at it, click on name.. joined what 5 hours ago… what has happened to the forum? It doesn't appear to be a scam? 1 minute ago, ianr said: Easily found: https://anatomylondon.com/ Snap! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprout Posted Thursday at 07:19 Share Posted Thursday at 07:19 Well then a very badly worded survey and why only allow people one choice per question? Strange choices of answers too.. My estimation of Horniman has gone right down if they have paid for this survey.. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Thursday at 09:08 Share Posted Thursday at 09:08 (edited) 1 hour ago, beansprout said: Well then a very badly worded survey and why only allow people one choice per question? Strange choices of answers too.. My estimation of Horniman has gone right down if they have paid for this survey.. The one answer allowed per question is possibly understandable, to make the next stage in their research easier. The actual list of possible answers isn't. I would be interested to know why this company was chosen to work on this campaign, and on what grounds, and whether any other companies were considered. Maybe the OP could comment on the reasons for the wording of the survey? TBH it doesn't fill one with confidence if they don't even check that their links work when posting on a public forum under their company's real name. Maybe they are a newbie or someone doing work experience? If so, shouldn't someone more senior have run their eye over the survey before it went live? Very sorry if that sounds harsh. The actual ideas for the campaign are fine, and different skills are involved for that, which might explain things to some extent. Edited Thursday at 09:17 by Sue 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprout Posted Thursday at 09:33 Share Posted Thursday at 09:33 22 minutes ago, Sue said: The one answer allowed per question is possibly understandable, to make the next stage in their research easier. The actual list of possible answers isn't. I would be interested to know why this company was chosen to work on this campaign, and on what grounds, and whether any other companies were considered. Maybe the OP could comment on the reasons for the wording of the survey? TBH it doesn't fill one with confidence if they don't even check that their links work when posting on a public forum under their company's real name. Maybe they are a newbie or someone doing work experience? If so, shouldn't someone more senior have run their eye over the survey before it went live? Very sorry if that sounds harsh. The actual ideas for the campaign are fine, and different skills are involved for that, which might explain things to some extent. Actually, you have just made me think about something which duurrr should have thought of earlier.. To be lenient here, I think English is not the person first language which is the only logical explanation for strange responses.. maybe even googled Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Thursday at 10:20 Share Posted Thursday at 10:20 46 minutes ago, beansprout said: Actually, you have just made me think about something which duurrr should have thought of earlier.. To be lenient here, I think English is not the person first language which is the only logical explanation for strange responses.. maybe even googled I think that's highly unlikely. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprout Posted Thursday at 12:10 Share Posted Thursday at 12:10 Ok.. so what is your take then? Did you fill out strange survey? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianr Posted Thursday at 12:38 Share Posted Thursday at 12:38 In fairness, I think the complaints about being limited to one answer are unjustified. Clearly above the column of choices I see the text "Choose as many as you like", and the page does permit that. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Thursday at 12:50 Share Posted Thursday at 12:50 (edited) 40 minutes ago, beansprout said: Ok.. so what is your take then? Did you fill out strange survey? Yes I did, in case that wasn't clear from my posts above. What reasons do you have for thinking that English was not the first language of the person who put the survey together? (And even if it wasn't, how would that be relevant unless it made the questions hard to understand?) I don't think the issues with the survey stem from a language problem. I think, though I may be wrong, that they stem from an unfamiliarity with survey methodology, and not properly thinking the process through. 14 minutes ago, ianr said: In fairness, I think the complaints about being limited to one answer are unjustified. Clearly above the column of choices I see the text "Choose as many as you like", and the page does permit that. Yes you are right, I missed that because in each case I could only find one possible answer I could give, but that of course doesn't mean I couldn't have given more. Edited Thursday at 12:52 by Sue Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beansprout Posted Thursday at 13:35 Share Posted Thursday at 13:35 I tried to do 2/3 and would not let me - so no choice but to choose one. Personally I thought the words for choice were strange but that is my own opinion. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted Thursday at 15:15 Share Posted Thursday at 15:15 1 hour ago, beansprout said: I tried to do 2/3 and would not let me - so no choice but to choose one. Personally I thought the words for choice were strange but that is my own opinion. Yes, the choice of words was strange, but so far as I could see they were correct English? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/369121-help-make-the-horniman-an-even-more-welcoming-and-inspiring-place-for-everyone/#findComment-1725206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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