Proposal Lordship Lane walkability

[Pugwash]

Yes.  Buses were stopping 3- 4 feet away from the pavement (also happens nowadays due to parking)  on one occasion, people waiting at the bus stop had to assist me 

[first mate]

At the last ED CPZ consultation, there were concerns that any CPZ would negatively impact local shops and their trade by removing parking for shoppers in cars (a point that was raised by businesses in LL, if I remember). The Council response was that there would be more paid for parking on LL to make up for this, as well as paid for spaces on residential streets adjacent to LL. If parking is decreased on LL it is likely to increase on residential side streets, especially where parking is free. 

I don't think we are anywhere near a tipping point that all those shoppers in cars will suddenly switch to buses or bikes.

[march46]

There is no bus stop on the side where the pavement was temporarily widened during COVID.

[Rockets]

2 hours ago, first mate said:

At the last ED CPZ consultation, there were concerns that any CPZ would negatively impact local shops and their trade by removing parking for shoppers in cars

And the last council survey it undertook suggested that, if I remember correctly, 22% of all shoppers had driven to use Lordship Lane and the vast majority from postcodes not bordering SE22 and that the council considered it a destination shopping area.

Let's also be very frank and pragmatic - in many of the areas people are saying need widening the pavement is very wide it's just that shop frontages and displays have encroached a long way out creating a narrowing effect and yes, sometimes you have to wait at weekends to let people pass but it's not the end of the world. As someone who can often be found sampling a tipple or two at Cave du Bruno or an ice-cream sat out Oddono's I am all for shop frontage creep!

I think the removal of car parking spaces would be nothing more than a council CPZ creation programme and I would like to hope a more pragmatic approach is taken and we can see better lighting on Lordship Lane around the shops as it is very dark in places, there still needs to be some sort of crossing at EDG and LL and just better paving would help anyone - those would be my priorities and they would come way before removing parking spaces. BTW given Cllr McAsh has been one of the councillors responsible for Lordship Lane and given his free-spending on other projects in his cabinet role why has Lordship Lane been allowed to fall into such a neglectful state - it's a bit, well, shoddy and tired now?

 

[Moovart]

45 minutes ago, Rockets said:

 

Let's also be very frank and pragmatic - in many of the areas people are saying need widening the pavement is very wide it's just that shop frontages and displays have encroached a long way out creating a narrowing effect and yes, sometimes you have to wait at weekends to let people pass but it's not the end of the world. As someone who can often be found sampling a tipple or two at Cave du Bruno or an ice-cream sat out Oddono's I am all for shop frontage creep!

 

I believe those particular shop frontages belong to the freeholders rather than to the council and that the council's bit of the pavement is the narrow uneven bit with the massive trees planted in it.