The Telegraph and the other right wing media, do they hate Britain?

[Sephiroth]

Fine dude - you do you. I dont think you have the slightest interest in the BBC (whereas clearly HeadNun dos) other than its elimination.  If it made these mistakes against starmer/davey/greens whoever I doubt you would get as upset. It’s all very “bring a pen to Brexit referendum because they can rub out pencil  votes”

(“but strafe!! Dave hasn’t said any of these things on here  and if you suggest he does elsewhere you have no proof!”  This is true! And yet here we are )

I’ll ask again. Why do you think lowe said foreigner and domestic.  Instead of just “criminals”?

[CPR Dave]

You miss the point entirely. The motivations of the the BBC's victims are irrelevant.

You are advocating that their failure to be impartial is justified because you disagree politically with the people they are inaccurate about. This is the whole problem. 

They don't make these "mistakes" with Starmer / the Greens / Davey because they agree with everything those people say. 

Edited Thursday at 18:49 by CPR Dave

[Sephiroth]

“You are advocating that their failure to be impartial is justified because you disagree politically with the people they are inaccurate about. ”

im arguing no such thing.  I saw lowe’s comments misreported by several news sources and then in saw the corrections and apologies roll in.  Correctly 

I think you will find everyone gets misreported.  Pretty frequently. 
 

but whereas I think Badenoch is as mad as a box of frogs and a bad leader of Tories or starmer is not up to the job of leading the Labour party  I think they both fit under the “norms” of political life and they tend to run with the punches a bit more 

Trump and Lowe are not just people I disagree with.  They are  fundamentally anti-democratic, racist pathetic men who should have no proximity to power - they also should not be misreported.  But they do have thinner skin  (something they share with say, Corbyn) 

Edited Thursday at 18:56 by Sephiroth

[CPR Dave]

Whatever you think about Trump or Lowe or any other politician is entirely irrelevant to this topic. 

You don't need to keep bringing up their politics or how much you hate them because it's just not pertinent to this discussion. 

[Sephiroth]

(Looks at title of thread)

[CPR Dave]

Yes, your name and political views aren't mentioned there, you see.

But what the title of the thread does refer to is a report in the Telegraph (and other right wing and, actually, left wing media) on an internal BBC memo that was considered by the BBC board on 17 October 2025 and which was so devastating the Director General himself considered he should resign.

[HeadNun]

14 hours ago, CPR Dave said:

You miss the point entirely. The motivations of the the BBC's victims are irrelevant.

You are advocating that their failure to be impartial is justified because you disagree politically with the people they are inaccurate about. This is the whole problem. 

They don't make these "mistakes" with Starmer / the Greens / Davey because they agree with everything those people say. 

I agree with this, I'm afraid. 

It's funny that certain people are up in arms about Rockets posting 'misinformation' in the Traffic threads, but  seem OK with it in broadcast, as long as it aligns with their views. You have to ask yourselves, what is it that you really want? If it's an echo chamber then just watch Fox News or CNN, however you lean. But then what's the point of it all? 

Edited yesterday at 09:43 by HeadNun

[Sephiroth]

Mad that on a thread about the telegraph (and are we saying they  are a paragon of reporting? Are we?) it just happens to be the bbc and only the bbc copping the flak

headnun - I’m not sure your point about despicable people “hanging themselves” holds up in a world where despicable people appear to be taking over in so many places 

for too long, these people have been given equal airtime to normal people, creating a false equivalence - the result being a lot of people seem to think “well if one person thinks smoking is bad for you and one person thinks it’s good for you, who am I to say who is right and wrong”

 

 

 

[HeadNun]

I don't think anyone here is claiming the Torygraph is the paragon of good reporting, or impartiality. But the BBC should be

 

Edited yesterday at 11:24 by HeadNun

[malumbu]

6 hours ago, HeadNun said:

 

Secondly, the BBC isn't meant to be centrist - it's meant to be impartial, there's a difference. The fact that you don't seem to know the difference says it all, really. 

 

Well apolitical if that is an OK word for you.  Sorry if my choice of words was incorrect.  But on my original point if it wasn't for the Telegraph dragging this up, and yes they do have an agenda, an no they are not apolitical/impartial whatever, we;d be none the wiser.

But as it made no difference to Trump's election campaign that why would he have a case in the American courts?

Irrespective of the rights and wrongs of the programme

[malumbu]

This is the right sort of response from the BBC (Friday night comedy).  Well done.  Please listen before commenting.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0mfx7h4