southwark to be given up to 10 million to improve buses

[Spartacus]

Saw this today, which is brilliant news for Southwark

https://southwarknews.co.uk/news/community/southwark-to-be-given-up-to-10-million-to-improve-buses/

I am amused that Lewisham are clear on what they are focusing on, but Southwark in the article aren't.

Wonder where the money will be spent and what suggestions, if you had £10 million to improve buses, you would spend it on.

[alice]

Please don’t say it’s going to be spent on a little green bus for Dulwich Village

[exdulwicher]

11 minutes ago, Spartacus said:

Wonder where the money will be spent and what suggestions, if you had £10 million to improve buses, you would spend it on.

24/7 bus lanes. Bus clearways and bus priority measures.

[Spartacus]

5 minutes ago, exdulwicher said:

24/7 bus lanes. Bus clearways and bus priority measures.

Where would you add the bus lanes? remembering its for the whole borough and not just ED 

[march46]

Brilliant news, well done Southwark!

24/7 bus lanes and bus priority measures will make the most difference imo.

[malumbu]

From the article:

The investment proposals include:

• New bus priority measures to improve journey times
• Better management of roadworks to reduce bus delays
• Bus stop improvements to make them more pleasant, safer places to wait and easier to change modes of transport
• Street improvements to make it easier and safer to walk to bus stops and stations

Wonder what improved bus stops means?  A roaring fire, a cocktail bar, chilled music??  Whatever (and I am just being cheeky) a vast improvements from my childhood where our bus stops were often enclosed and used as toilets.

[Spartacus]

9 minutes ago, malumbu said:

 

Wonder what improved bus stops means?  A roaring fire, a cocktail bar, chilled music??  Whatever (and I am just being cheeky) a vast improvements from my childhood where our bus stops were often enclosed and used as toilets.

Maybe they will be fitted with real loos so that the elderly can use buses more without the fear of getting caught short 🤔 

[Insuflo]

1 hour ago, malumbu said:

 

Wonder what improved bus stops means?  A roaring fire, a cocktail bar, chilled music??  

Something like this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unst_Bus_Shelter

[CPR Dave]

Would rather they spent on there being more buses going to more useful places. 

Put the 40 back to the London Bridge route and extend it up to Islington.

Have a bus that goes down Lordship Lane and turns right on to the South Circular towards Clapham. 

Extend the 176 up to Regent's Park.

Extend the 185 up to Sloane Square. 

F**k tinkering around the edges with bus lanes and shelters - get some proper changes made with bus routes for the people.

[malumbu]

It's ten million not £500 million.  Whether you like it or not it is not for the above purpose. Most people seem to be pleased.

The new Superloop, if it goes ahead, will go to Clapham.  The P13 goes that way already.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Increasing the frequency of the 37 would be good, or maybe an extra East / West link travelling to Brixton via Railton for a faster connection to the tube. 

[NewWave]

1 hour ago, CPR Dave said:

Would rather they spent on there being more buses going to more useful places. 

Put the 40 back to the London Bridge route and extend it up to Islington.

Have a bus that goes down Lordship Lane and turns right on to the South Circular towards Clapham. 

Extend the 176 up to Regent's Park.

Extend the 185 up to Sloane Square. 

F**k tinkering around the edges with bus lanes and shelters - get some proper changes made with bus routes for the people.

I agree 100% the destinations of our local bus routes are a bit c**p.

 

[CPR Dave]

Extending those routes would cost about £450k per annum per route initially. 

So £10m would pay for it for 7 or so years, by which time the extensions might pay for themselves by being more useful.

[rollflick]

It's not about adding to bus routes rather the main spend is on bus priority, as otherwise the spiral of decline in inner London will continue, in other words further cuts to routes and frequencies. The aim is to cut journey times by 30%, so increasing average speed up from about 9mph to 12 mph, making buses more attractive as well as more economic to run.

Apparently Southwark is focusing on what's been termed the South London Busway: the corridor is E&C - Walworth Road - Denmark Hill - Lordship Lane. Other slow sections of bus routes in the borough are either red routes like Old Kent Road and Tower Bridge Road (so for TfL to deal with rather than Southwark) or low frequency (e.g. P13 squeezing through ever wider parked cars).