More big increases in cycling

[Earl Aelfheah]

Yes thanks. Are you going to address any of the points i've made, or questions I've asked before posing new ones?

In the video you've dug out, they're naturally talking about what has changed relatively recently. One contributor does reference new Bike lanes. As I said, above:

4 hours ago, Earl Aelfheah said:

yes, some of the road space that has been re-allocated for cycle lanes will have had an impact

That is not the same as saying that bike lanes are the primary cause of carriageway pressure. As first mate has pointed out: 

1 hour ago, first mate said:

They all agreed that carriageway pressure is one of the major contributing factors (along with roadworks).

What do you think is the primary cause of carriageway pressure? Do you think it's likely to be from the much fewer people travelling on small bicycles, or the much greater number of people travelling in big private motor vehicles? 

There aren't even any segregated bike lanes round here that I can think of. There are lot's of cars on the roads though, and they have got bigger - turning roads that previously functioned as two-way streets, into ones where cars have to constantly stop to let each other pass. Do you think that bicycles are the thing that are slowing local buses down? Really?

And can we assume you'd support removing some parking on Lordship Lane and making the bus lane 24/7 to increase journey times? Seeing as you're definitely, genuinely, concerned about the issue. 

Edited 9 hours ago by Earl Aelfheah

[Rockets]

7 minutes ago, Earl Aelfheah said:

One contributor does reference new Bike lanes are one of those things.

Three of the four experts reference it and they talk about it for some time as one of the key factors in bus delays. 

8 minutes ago, Earl Aelfheah said:

Do you think it's likely to be from the much smaller number of people travelling on bicycles, or the much larger number of people travelling in big private motor vehicles? 

But they are talking about bus lanes - did you hear the union member saying that sharing bus lanes with bikes is great and needed for cycle safety but buses are being delayed by bikes as they cannot overtake them? 

I suggest no-one listen to @Earl Aelfheah and watches ten minutes of the video from the point at about 1 hour 7 minutes. It's very, very clear what they are discussing and the expert opinion they share.

 

[malumbu]

23 hours ago, Rockets said:

oh @malumbu......you know two days ago there was a London Assembly Transport Committee meeting to discuss why London buses are continuing to get slower and slower and why people are abandoning buses as a result....a panel of experts joined to discuss it - including a bus company, London Travel Watch and two union reps.

Here is the link. Scroll to 1 hour 7 minutes in and have a listen for 10 minutes or so and see what the experts conclude and let me know what you think: 

 

 

Reduced bus patronage due to slower bus journey times has been an issue for a number of years.  I'll let TfL and the boroughs work that out.

You have posted hundreds of posts that are anti-cyclist and anti support for increasing cycling.  Don't suddenly pretend you are our friend.

[Rockets]

Have you watched the video @malumbu?

1 minute ago, malumbu said:

You have posted hundreds of posts that are anti-cyclist and anti support for increasing cycling.  Don't suddenly pretend you are our friend.

Ouch! 😉

[Earl Aelfheah]

2 hours ago, first mate said:

One specifically cited cycle lanes

@Rockets I was referenced first mate, when I agreed that a contributor does reference bike lanes. 🤣

Are you are not going to address any of the points made, answer any questions, or correct your false statements about a promise that was never made?

Basically you're scratching around, jumping from argument to argument, determined to make out that the increase in cycling you said would never happened, is either overstated, or somehow a bad thing. Just admit you're wrong for once in your life.

Edited 9 hours ago by Earl Aelfheah

[Rockets]

33 minutes ago, malumbu said:

Reduced bus patronage due to slower bus journey times has been an issue for a number of years.  I'll let TfL and the boroughs work that out.

That was the point of the London Assembly Transport Committee meeting, to get expert opinion on what is causing the delays to buses. TFL is being called in January to present their thoughts.

[first mate]

2 hours ago, Earl Aelfheah said:

What do you think is the primary cause of carriageway pressure?

I'd go with the expert opinion at the LA panel which seemed balanced and reasonable. In the part I listened to, traffic and parking was mentioned (especially couriers) but no more emphasised than cycle lanes, public utilities- 'emergency' works (especially Thames Water), road design interventions like box junctions (viewed by the bus driver rep as primarily about money-making). 

Strangely, no mention of car length or size.

[Rockets]

Unfortunately some people don't want balance and reasonableness as it doesnt suit their personal agenda. It's clear there are problems because the approach to active travel has been anything but balanced.