Ryedale SE22 - Proposal to block end of Ryedale at junction of Underhill Road - January 2026

[otter]

never mind the poor souls on dunstans road this is pathetic those against should protest on the day

[ianr]

I would reserve judgement on the role of the 'survey' until much better information emerges.

Experimental RTOs have been around since at least the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, and have some virtues, such as being more easily modified (or withdrawn?) in the light of results and the feedback provided.

You have six months from the order's inception to have your says about whether and why it should not be made permanent.   People might think it useful to get some baseline statistics before it actually comes into operation.  You could start by asking Highways what sample traffic data is already available for the relevant roads over, say, the last five years.  Then, for the most efficient data grabbing, maybe try sticking a camera in the window and recording video -- save the data collating till later, and make sure it's all clearly dated.   Bear in mind that some cameras may limit single file size.  No need to use the highest resolution, so long as vehicles are easily countable.

Here's an example of how Lambeth provided the statutorily specified necessary information about an ETRO of theirs: https://www.lambeth.gov.uk/sites/default/files/2025-11/171-VPG-SOR.pdf  and a snippet from a recent Commons Library briefing paper https://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN06013/SN06013.pdf :

"There are separate rules for experimental orders, as set out in Regulations 22 and 23 of the 1996 Regulations.

"These regulations set out that the requirements on the publication of proposals and objections (which apply to permanent orders) do not apply to an experimental order. No provision of an experimental order shall come into force before the expiration of the period of seven days beginning with the day on which a notice of making in relation to the order is published.

"Councils may wish to make an experimental order as a precursor to a permanent order, as this process allows councils to bypass the requirements on consultation, notice of proposals and objections, providing other requirements have been met (see Regulation 23). This can be a more cost effective and flexible approach (allowing, for example, for immediate feedback and minor changes) than a permanent order or a temporary order (which cannot be converted into a permanent order – see below)."

 

Edited 12 hours ago by ianr
para.3: 'force'->'operation'

[Penguin68]

I find it interesting that even the usual council cheer leader suspects are finding it difficult to leap to their defence this time. 

[malumbu]

Not really sure what the issue is. There isn't a lot of traffic on these roads.  You could argue then why the restrictions, but surely once the trial has been held you will know more.  Can't see it having one iota affect on the local shops.  All comes across as reactionary.  

[alice]

There are three parallel roads that link Underhill Road with Forest Hill  Rd within 50 m of each other. if one is blocked there will  be a 50% increase of traffic on each of the other two roads. 

Edited 47 minutes ago by alice
Unnecessary word removal

[ianr]

Why 'undoubtedly'?