Ryedale SE22 - Proposal to block end of Ryedale at junction of Underhill Road - January 2026

[Rockets]

Oh my @malumbu you have excelled yourself on that one. Wonderful, just wonderful - can we get that framed please?

The most obvious answer (beyond the one where I point out I used to live on a road off Underhill - which I refrained from doing when you tried to claim you knew Underhill better than me) is that at least I live in the same town/borough as the road in question....ahem.....;-)

You may not see the irony in my post as I suspect you didn't see the irony in your own post!

 

[Penguin68]

34 minutes ago, malumbu said:

  You go on about congestion during rush hour in the Village, this is caused, and has always been caused for the majority of times, by the school run. 

Nonsense, the Underhill Road congestion occurs during the natural rush hours (in the evening 17.00 to 18.00) not associated with school times, and is of traffic leaving or entering the South Circular. I'm talking about traffic that would have entered the South Circular from roads around the Village and which are now blocked from doing so at key 'rush hour' periods. The congestion isn't now 'in the village'. It's outside my front door! 

[march46]

There are a few flaws in your argument @Penguin68.

1. The timed restrictions in Dulwich Village aren’t active between 5-6pm when you say there is a problem, in fact they end at 4.30pm.
2. If you are ever in Dulwich Village between 5-6pm you will see northbound queues, as there always was during the evening rush hour. 

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[MonkeyNews]

It isn’t supposed to be in effect already? I’ve just walked past the supposed closure and the road is open.

[Rockets]

1 hour ago, Penguin68 said:

Nonsense, the Underhill Road congestion occurs during the natural rush hours (in the evening 17.00 to 18.00) not associated with school times, and is of traffic leaving or entering the South Circular. I'm talking about traffic that would have entered the South Circular from roads around the Village and which are now blocked from doing so at key 'rush hour' periods. The congestion isn't now 'in the village'. It's outside my front door! 

Spot on. This is why the council refused to monitor Underhill as they knew it was massive displacement route and if they had included it they would not have been able to claim a "reduction in areawide traffic post LTN". The omission of Underhill from their monitoring was very deliberate.

Underhill has been soaking up the displacement from the Dulwich LTNs since they went in and anyone who argues against it clearly hasn't got the foggiest what they are talking about and are probably being driven by ideology rather than reality.

[CT_R]

1 hour ago, MonkeyNews said:

It isn’t supposed to be in effect already? I’ve just walked past the supposed closure and the road is open.

Delayed ‘procurement issues’

 

[malumbu]

6 hours ago, Rockets said:

Oh my @malumbu you have excelled yourself on that one. Wonderful, just wonderful - can we get that framed please?

The most obvious answer (beyond the one where I point out I used to live on a road off Underhill - which I refrained from doing when you tried to claim you knew Underhill better than me) is that at least I live in the same town/borough as the road in question....ahem.....;-)

You may not see the irony in my post as I suspect you didn't see the irony in your own post!

 

I understand you live further away.  Underhill was my cycle commute for twenty years.  I still use it regularly inlcluding yesterday and today, pretty quiet at 8.30.  Why can't you accept the simple fact that you are not particularly close to the affected roads and are affected as much as I am.   It's a fact.  The nah nah nah playground response isn't very constructive.

[Rockets]

On 14/01/2026 at 17:13, malumbu said:

I know Underhill Road very well, I expect better than you. 

@malumbu I was merely addressing your playground antics....to be fair it does seem as if you started it...

I do live further away now but for a long time lived a darn sight closer to Underhill and Ryedale than you do so just letting you know you're trying to pick on the wrong person in the playground. This one knows the area very well and has been consistently very vocal about the negative impact the LTNs have had on Underhill as I saw it first hand.

 

 

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[malumbu]

5 hours ago, Penguin68 said:

Nonsense, the Underhill Road congestion occurs during the natural rush hours (in the evening 17.00 to 18.00) not associated with school times, and is of traffic leaving or entering the South Circular. I'm talking about traffic that would have entered the South Circular from roads around the Village and which are now blocked from doing so at key 'rush hour' periods. The congestion isn't now 'in the village'. It's outside my front door! 

You really need you to explain this as it confuses me.  There is congestion for example at Barry Road, as you would expect where it meets a main road.  There is congestion sometimes due to the P13.  I do not see Underhill as a particularly busy road,  It is a main road so of course it is meant to take traffic,  I really don;t know what this displacement you and others go on about.  Are you saying that it takes traffic off Forest Hill Road and Lordship Lane?  That is a new one on me.

The South Circ, apart from when there was roadworks at the Grove Tavern, appears no better of worse than it has been for most years I have lived in SE London.  If you are talking about traffic from the South Circ using underhill then Wood Vale and Underhill at the junction would see a lot of traffic,  I don't see that and would question why it would go this way rather than down LL.  Similarly if they went some convoluted way such as Friern, Uplands or Barry Road onto Underhill.

I'm afraid it just doesn't add up.  That or I am living in a different world.  

4 minutes ago, Rockets said:

@malumbu I was merely addressing your playground antics....to be fair it does seem as if you started it...

 

No you are not, you are not addressing my point but avoiding it.

Just answer the question, does this scheme affect you?  It hardly affects me.  

I await your answer in anticipation (and hope).

[Rockets]

12 minutes ago, malumbu said:

I do not see Underhill as a particularly busy road,  It is a main road so of course it is meant to take traffic, 

Oh my.....if you think Underhill is a main road I would suggest you need a bit of a rethink.

12 minutes ago, malumbu said:

I'm afraid it just doesn't add up.  That or I am living in a different world.  

I think you have summed things up quite well!

12 minutes ago, malumbu said:

Just answer the question, does this scheme affect you?  It hardly affects me.  

Yet you feel compelled to share your wisdom to us as well. It does affect many people who were both my neighbours and friends and parents of children who went to Goodrich with our kids.

And they are livid because as people who live in the area and have had to live with the LTN displacement along Underhill and surrounding streets they are incredulous Southwark are doing this as it makes zero sense and will deliver traffic hell for St Dunstan's and St Aidan's and are smart enough to see through the council nonsense.

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[Angelina]

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