Ryedale SE22 - Proposal to block end of Ryedale at junction of Underhill Road - January 2026

[Rockets]

13 minutes ago, malumbu said:

According to research and social commentary, people smear academics for the following reasons (I've only attached the first as this is most relevant):

Ha ha, or because they are activist researchers...a, perhaps, far more worrying trend where organisations like TFL and the Mayor's office get friendly researchers to help them mark their homework for them 😉

13 minutes ago, malumbu said:

I'm avoiding the more recent debate as I have stuff to do,

I think what you meant to say was that you're avoiding the recent debate because the FOIs expose something you have said cannot and was not happening....and poses real questions about your beloved Southwark Council and their approach to active travel interventions.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Rockets

[Insuflo]

3 hours ago, Penguin68 said:

Agreed with whom? one wonders.  Not (knowingly) with me, for sure. As an elector in Dulwich Hill. Agreed with someone in Ryedale, one assumes.

So, everything that happens in the ward has to be approved by you? Handy to know given that I live in the ward. 
Councillors are delegates; we elect them to make decisions on our behalf. If you don’t like the decisions they make, you can cast your vote against them in May.

The dialogue on this thread is infantile.

[Rockets]

At what point do those who side with the council go...you know what that's outrageous and not what I expect of my elected officials? Or are some so entrenched that they will never get to that point - happy to turn a blind eye to abuse of power and seriously questionable actions because the outcome aligns with their ideology?

[Penguin68]

55 minutes ago, Insuflo said:

So, everything that happens in the ward has to be approved by you? Handy to know given that I live in the ward. 

My point was that there was no consultation on this so far as I can recall; if ward policy is to be decided, then asking people in the ward for their views might be a democratic starting point. Unless you believe that ward policy should be the remit of the Labour councillors only... Oh you probably do believe that. As do the Labour councillors no doubt. 

[Insuflo]

19 minutes ago, Penguin68 said:

My point was that there was no consultation on this so far as I can recall; if ward policy is to be decided, then asking people in the ward for their views might be a democratic starting point. Unless you believe that ward policy should be the remit of the Labour councillors only... Oh you probably do believe that. As do the Labour councillors no doubt. 

No. You are wrong.
The democratic starting point is electing councillors. If you don’t like what they do, you have an opportunity to oust them, periodically. But the idea that everyone in the ward should be consulted on any change is ridiculous.
There are people in Lewisham borough who live closer to Ryedale than you do. Should they have oversight and veto also?

32 minutes ago, Rockets said:

At what point do those who side with the council go...you know what that's outrageous and not what I expect of my elected officials? Or are some so entrenched that they will never get to that point - happy to turn a blind eye to abuse of power and seriously questionable actions because the outcome aligns with their ideology?

“The end justifies the means “- J.V.Stalin.

[EDlifechat]

The debate seems to have got quite off topic. The council has tried to implement a scheme that their own internal documents envisage will damage other roads in the area. Surely the sensible thing for the council to do at this point is take a step back and think about how it implements the scheme in a more sensible way (or if it can't, scraps it and starts again). To my mind the most obvious starting point would surely be to install proper humps on Ryedale as per Dunstans and then the council assesses what else is needed to calm Ryedale after that. Any ETO can be 6 months rather than 18.

[CPR Dave]

5 hours ago, Earl Aelfheah said:

[That]  would risk undermining the procedural integrity of the scheme.

I think this is the funniest thing I have ever read on here. Chapeau.