Peckham Rye Gyratory reappears for 2 week consultation: little change, more disruption

[malumbu]

I'm commenting again about the broader picture.  I commuted by cycle for 20 years through Peckham Rye (west) and Rye Lane, it was (and still is) pretty horrid during peak times.  I'm not aware if and how the new scheme will affect that commute.

But I am interested in the political angle following the ex-councillor's interjection.  A simple AI response for the two main left parties:

LDs 

The Liberal Democrats' position on driver behaviour focuses on enhancing road safety, reducing environmental impacts, and promoting, or, in some cases, regulating the use of cars in favor of greener alternatives. Their approach combines technological solutions, support for safer infrastructure, and stricter penalties for dangerous driving.

 Greens

The Green Party of England and Wales positions itself to drastically reform driver behaviour through stricter regulations, reduced speed limits, and a shift toward sustainable, low-emission, and active travel, with an ultimate goal of zero road fatalities

Infrastructure and Road User Hierarchy: The party prioritizes a "road hierarchy" that places walking, cycling, and public transport above private motor vehicles. They plan to cancel new road-building programmes, using the funds to improve walking and cycling infrastructure. 

So both fall short of a totally radical rethink of our attitude to the motor car.  And how technology could, and hopefully should, see the end of the need for a private car in most urban environments freeing up 100s of miles of road space.

I'm sure that an earlier search mentioned the presumed liability, as adopted in some European countries, being something that LDs supported.  This is where the road user higher up the hierarchy eg car/motorcycle, or Truck/car would be presumed liable if there was a collision.  Perhaps James Barbour would know more.

[first mate]

19 hours ago, Spartacus said:

With regards the proposed scheme 

Removing paid parking will have an impact on the shops and resturants in the proposed area as it will be harder for "passing" trade to stop quickly and pick things up 

It also makes it harder for disabled drivers as they will have to park in the middle (5 spaces?) And then cross the road to get to the shops 

Currently, with the exception of a short time period in the morning, buses flow fairly freely through the proposed area so is this over engineering the solution? 

Unless i am wrong, the bus gate on Peckham Rye appears to stop cars, vans and taxis going to the gyratory from east dulwich road and from the forest hill / Barry Road direction, does this then impact traffic that needs to go to nunhead from the latter direction as there is no right turn at the lights ? How will this be managed or are cars going to be forced down to turn around at the goose green roundabout ? 

Basically, this is a poor design that will have massive negative impacts across a wider area fixing a problem that doesn't really exist and should be objected to and brought into scrutiny. 

 

 

Presumably local businesses have been consulted? 

[Spartacus]

Good question

[march46]

There is information provided on this - I’ve copied and pasted below for anyone who missed it. Sounds like the council did a very thorough job.

 

Parking & Loading changes:

The response to the consultation question about removal of parking bays showed majority support for removal, and this was followed up with surveys of affected businesses to understand their needs. More in depth surveys were commissioned to understand the impact of the proposals on existing businesses, and if there was opportunity for improvement. This took the form of kerbside parking and loading surveys, in-person interviews with affected businesses, online questionnaires and site observations. The main findings were that majority of parking was short stay, and almost all businesses on the western side used the single yellow line outside their premises for loading which can continue under the proposed scheme.

The design has subsequently been amended to remove more parking on the western side of the gyratory to provide wider footways outside the businesses. This can be applied for outdoor seating. Additional bays have been provided elsewhere to mitigate the reduction, as well as an increase in the number and location of disabled bays.

[Nigello]

I just can’t visualise “east” and “west” as easily as others (such as those much closer to this plan and/or who deal with plans much more often). Is there a decent map? 

[CPR Dave]

West side is the bit that borders se15 ED / Peckham 

East side is that bit that goes toward Nunhead.