dimples Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) I hope no one was hurt ? Edited 20 hours ago by dimples Making it clearer Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
march46 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago That’s awful - I really hope no one is seriously injured. It might be worth updating the title so it clearly reflects what happened: a driver crashed into a pedestrian. The way we describe collisions matters, because it shapes how people understand responsibility and risk. If a cyclist hit someone, it would sound odd to say “bike hit pedestrian” without mentioning the rider - yet when cars are involved, the driver often disappears from the wording. Using accurate language isn’t about blaming anyone before the facts are known; it’s simply about recognising that vehicles don’t act on their own. Drivers have agency, and it would be helpful if the wording reflected that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPR Dave Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Did anything actually crash into a pedestrian? Hope they are ok if so. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago I am also quite confused about what actually happened and how it came about. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago The police were there as I drove from Sainsburys - police car over took me at ED Station and by time I got to Co op area they were taking notes. No ambulance seen. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737265 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryelander Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Hopefully just the lamp post got the knock and is still in working order! fingers crossed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737268 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago I'm still completely unclear what happened, apart from that a car apparently crashed into a lamp post opposite the Co-op. I presume the one in Lordship Lane, though the OP doesn't say. Was it speeding? Did it swerve to avoid someone who ran into the road? Did something go wrong with its brakes or steering? Did the driver have a medical emergency or fall asleep or got distracted by something? Was there something slippery on the road surface? Was the driver hurt? Were any passengers hurt? Were any pedestrians or other road users hurt? Were there any witnesses? 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 13 hours ago, march46 said: Using accurate language isn’t about blaming anyone before the facts are known; it’s simply about recognising that vehicles don’t act on their own. Drivers have agency, and it would be helpful if the wording reflected that. Surely the key thing is to establish the facts, without that you are introducing assumptions as well as blame. It seems the OP accurately posted what they saw at the time. I am not sure why you introduced the pedestrian aspect- if only as an example, then it has caused confusion as to what actually happened. As for the statement that a driver has agency, mostly I would agree but it is not a given. There can be a mechanical failure, a medical emergency and, finally, the driverless car is on its way. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737297 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules-and-Boo Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago I was driving past when the police were arriving. No sign of anyone hurt or ambulances. 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737299 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherty Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago We passed and saw the airbags had come out. I hope no-one was injured. Also only saw police, not ambulances. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
march46 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, first mate said: I am not sure why you introduced the pedestrian aspect- if only as an example, then it has caused confusion as to what actually happened. The original title said a car had hit a pedestrian. We don’t have driverless cars yet, hopefully when we do there will be fewer collisions. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
first mate Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Understood; I see the thread title has been changed a few times. Do we know if a pedestrian was definitely involved? I also hope no person was injured. As for driverless cars, I think Waymo are due to launch in London this September. It may improve speeding and other results due to driver behaviour, not sure what impact these may have on congestion though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Peckham Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, march46 said: The original title said a car had hit a pedestrian. We don’t have driverless cars yet, hopefully when we do there will be fewer collisions. It didn't say that. The original title was pretty much 'Car crashes into pedestrian crossing on Lordship Lane'. You incorrectly inferred that a car had crashed into a pedestrian, crossing on Lordship Lane. And then went off on one. My thoughts, and those of my family, are with the lamppost. 1 1 1 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sue Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, David Peckham said: It didn't say that. The original title was pretty much 'Car crashes into pedestrian crossing on Lordship Lane'. You incorrectly inferred that a car had crashed into a pedestrian, crossing on Lordship Lane. And then went off on one. My thoughts, and those of my family, are with the lamppost. The lamppost was in the wrong place at the wrong time 😭 I don't understand how you can crash "into" a "pedestrian crossing" though. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyboy23 Posted 50 minutes ago Share Posted 50 minutes ago 16 hours ago, Sue said: I'm still completely unclear what happened, apart from that a car apparently crashed into a lamp post opposite the Co-op. I presume the one in Lordship Lane, though the OP doesn't say. Was it speeding? Did it swerve to avoid someone who ran into the road? Did something go wrong with its brakes or steering? Did the driver have a medical emergency or fall asleep or got distracted by something? Was there something slippery on the road surface? Was the driver hurt? Were any passengers hurt? Were any pedestrians or other road users hurt? Were there any witnesses? The driver was male he was on a mobile 3 minutes ago, teddyboy23 said: The driver was male he was on a mobile No one was hurt l. Complete dick Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyNews Posted 45 minutes ago Share Posted 45 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, teddyboy23 said: The driver was male he was on a mobile Are these known facts or are you guessing? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddyboy23 Posted 31 minutes ago Share Posted 31 minutes ago (edited) Known facts witnessed by a local business Edited 26 minutes ago by teddyboy23 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737354 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPR Dave Posted 10 minutes ago Share Posted 10 minutes ago Now we have animate businesses as well as self crashing cars Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/374165-car-crashed-into-lamp-post-opposite-coop-i-hope-no-one-was-hurt/#findComment-1737355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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