Things I hate about Scotland....

[Parkdrive]

red devil Wrote:

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> > > The seething sectarian hate and bile that

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> As opposed to the non-sectarian hate and bile that

> goes on at English games, and readily appears in

> our very own Football Focus thread...

I just knew you'd have to say something in response to my post. I think theirs is far more sinister and hateful and even you know it. But fell free to tell me I'm wrong.

[red devil]

I did...

[Parkdrive]

red devil Wrote:

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No you were merely trying to be clever. So if you want to be silly you're going to tell me the songs that relate to generations of real hatred, bloodshed and religious intolerance, are in the same category as some of the stuff on a thread on here? If so you really are something.

[Otta]

I'm with PD on this one, I think the religious aspect makes it nasty.

[red devil]

Otta Wrote:

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> I'm with PD on this one, I think the religious

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And anti-semitism aimed at Spurs and their fans isn't?...

[Otta]

That's nasty but not on the same scale these days. Most normal Arsenal fans would want no part of that.

I used to work with a lass from Glasgow. Perfectly nice and reasonable person, but talk about football (she's Rangers) and straight away she'd be on about the catholics.

[red devil]

Plenty of people in Liverpool and Manchester have exactly the same response about the other. It might not be based on religion but there's plenty of hate and bile in the English game...

[Otta]

Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not saying that our shit don't stink, but the old firm just seems that bit more fucked up.

That said, I've not experienced it first hand so that's just how it seems to me.

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Just for MrBen, love Quids

[Nigello]

It'll be a no. The papers especially (and the media in general) prefers a story to be a story, hence the bigging up of the polls. Most Scots have much more in common with the rest of the UK than some indy-minded leaders would have them and the rest of the UK population believe, especially the working-class ones.

I think the sights and sounds of Glasgow spectators readily and happily cheering English/Welsh/NI sportsmen and women in the inclusive environment of the Commonwealth games is encouraging to those who think we are "better together", though I admit that this might be my unionist spin.

I tell my Scottish friends that I regard Scotland as "mine", the same way I do Manchester, Cardiff, Newcastle or Belfast because I am a citizen of the United Kingdom. Some parts mean more to me than others, but they are all part of the UK.