Mark Duggan

[miga]

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[keekybreeks]

Yup, I didnt want to open this up along those lines, but the whole unfolding was dreadful and distasteful. not hard to mtake a marxian stance on the whole fing and argue a case. terrrible terrible days.

[miga]

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[keekybreeks]

miga Wrote:

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> But actually, if you wanted to open it up along

> Marxist lines, it's hard not to be critical of the

> riots, there was no central point, they didn't

> attack the rich, it wasn't organised along

> class/privilege lines, etc. etc. Zizek was

> dismissive of what he called the "left

> libertarian" understanding and excuse making for

> the rioters, and his analysis of the riots didn't

> divine any "class consciouscness" in the riots.

I cant get involkved in this miga, ive got too much to do tonight! I thought the riots were appalling

[Otta]

The response to the riots was pretty insane too.

[miga]

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[Blah Blah]

Yes the response was insane Otta and definitely steeped in class issues.

The actual riots themselves though were a spntaneous act of 'I can, therefore I will', helped to swell by social media. Had facebook spread the word about a mass demo taking over parliament, many of those rioters wouldn't have got out of bed. But tweet free stuff and no Police around, up they all get. It's what it reflects about our culture that's more interesting to me. The importance placed on things and the kudos associated with them over anything of real substence. We have a generation of kids who hate the Police and authority but can't articulate why. A generaltion of kids who want everything for nothing and so on. Not all kids I know but the malaise is there, and worrying.

[keekybreeks]

quick one before I start prepping a wholsome organic supper

taking a marxian overview of the whys and wherefors of these riots would go along with Baumans perspective- to take it down to its nuts and bolts- its all capitals fault

the Zizek- and I have not read this in depth but will do later

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[Seabag]

The riots were tragic

A fine example of the net neutered game playing yout failing at the real thing

Stick to GTA